Not Fake Hatch but "Aborted #7"?

[D-Roc]

Ive been reading some thoughts that suggest the Others hatch was a fake hatch..a dummy..a ruse.

However after watching Lost again in the early hours of this morning and thinking back to the blast door map..something sprung to mind..

On the blast door, the was reference to an 'aborted' hatch. It was called #7..the seventh hatch (see here:map Now, im thinking that this must be the Others hatch that we saw in the finale because both the blast door map and the hatch in the finale are located on the North shore of the island. So..rather than being a fake hatch..isnt there much possibility that it is in fact a discontinued hatch..as in the doorway was filled up with concrete and blocked so that no-one could enter it (at least not from that entrance anyway)?

Now the word 'aborted' rings bells for me..because this means that there does exist something inside this hatch - it does/did have a purpose or a planned purpose. Now the fact that the others have chosen to use this hatch site as their base [be it a fake 'camp' or not] surely tells us something. In my opinion it suggests that if Sayid were to have (somehow) knocked that wall down, he wouldve found something important inside.

Also..the word 'aborted'..now if we look at this - (one meaning for the word) abort, is to to give birth prematurely or before term; miscarry. Now, probably looking into this too deep but it just reminds me of the Claire/Aaron situation, what with her wanting to abort Aaron at one point. Also generally, the word 'abort' has alot of connection to sickness and disease..it does, honest! So what im suggesting is that that hatch was discontinued/aborted because of the sickness..and what im further suggesting in that it has since been re-opened..dont let the concrete wall fool you.

Well thats my theory - no spoilers.

Update - oh and also on the blast door map, the Others hatch has the words "lift up your heart" written beside it 3 times..now i dont know about anyone else but ever since i saw this it reminded me of what Desmond said to Jack - "Lift it up"

[kirsty290182]

It just makes me wonder if the hatch is a fake, why would the go out there way and so much trouble to make it?

[Indie88]

you stole this from me :P I want some credit!

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Indie88,September 30, 2006 08:54 am

you stole this from me :P I want some credit!

?? I didnt steal it from anyone..post me alink to where you said this?

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by kirsty290182,September 30, 2006 08:21 am

It just makes me wonder if the hatch is a fake, why would the go out there way and so much trouble to make it?

Yeah exactly..thats one of the reasons why i dont think it's fake. It's just been aborted..or at least it was aborted..now i reckon the Others (or whoever) still use it..it's just that the concrete wall makes it appear out of use. In fact they [or whoever] probably never really shut it down ..they probabaly just pretended to? Also, the fact that the window 'and' the statue are right by it suggets to me that the hatch is certainly not fake..that whole area is significant enough to build a statue and other symbolic structures..so a fake hatch wouldnt really fit in with the culture of that area imo.

[kirsty290182]

Totally, i mean, if it was fake why would they build it there? I don't think it's fake at all. It just seems a bit pointless to go to that length of trouble for nothing really...

[Ché]

Uhh.. Sorry if I'm being an idiot but was all that writing from your link Kor on the blast door map?? That's crazy I didn't see that! There's some mental stuff on it.. At "4 o'clock" on the map it says 'There are dragons here"!!

Oh, and to keep this on topic, those are some good observations Kor! (and/or Indie) :P

I just presumed it was a fake hatch, but it makes sense that it's just blocked in.. There might even be a secret entrance to it round the back or something so the others can use it and still make it look obsolete.. Possibly.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by kirsty290182,September 30, 2006 09:13 am

Totally, i mean, if it was fake why would they build it there? I don't think it's fake at all. It just seems a bit pointless to go to that length of trouble for nothing really...

I agree Kirst! I accept that it's still 'possible' that the whole camp/hatch is fake..though after some thought im reverting back to thinking that it isnt!

[Cavegirl]

That's a very good point KoR! A kind of double bluff is just the sort of thing Lost is likely to throw at us. And it would explain why the "fake" door had working hinges.

[-x-madegurl-x-]

Wait...where's the Pearl hatch on that map? i can't find it

[kirsty290182]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,September 30, 2006 08:45 am

I agree Kirst! I accept that it's still 'possible' that the whole camp/hatch is fake..though after some thought im reverting back to thinking that it isnt!

Yeh, it is possible for it to be fake, it is Lost after all, anything is possible. But i don't think that they would go out of there way just to have an extra "Fake" hatch.

[Kiowa Warrior]

Yes nice idea that the hatch could have been an aborted/abandoned one...especially given its location near the staute and the rock window, it makes you wonder if that part of the island is (or was) special in some way, making it an attractive location for Dharma.

I'm still of the belief that the camp we saw wasn't the main base of the Others, and instead they use it if they want to mislead anyone or hide their true intentions. But I can't really think of why they would go to the effort of making a fake hatch - if their plan was to use the camp to decieve someone, they could probably achieve that without the hatch.

And it's an interesting thought that there is another way into the hatch - perhaps either from round the back or maybe from undergroud - which is not guarded, and so attention is not drawn to it.

But then again, why not go to all the trouble of building a fake hatch if you have the time, manpower, resources and motivation to? It wouldn't hurt anyone, and you could use it to add weight to your fake camp ploy, or even use it in another plan. I'm guessing that the Others are fighting a bigger battle than the one they currently are with the losties, so anything they can devise that would be an advantage to them could well be build, because who knows when they may need it?

[Him]

It looks like they just have a set of doors... no-one in their right mind would go about building a complex this way (put the door in place before any hollowing etc.?).

I think the others have just manufactured a set of doors to look like a hatch entrance... (is it a coincidence the doors have the symbol of a door on it?).

[Murgatroyd]

Originally Posted by Him,September 30, 2006 04:55 pm

It looks like they just have a set of doors... no-one in their right mind would go about building a complex this way (put the door in place before any hollowing etc.?).

I think the others have just manufactured a set of doors to look like a hatch entrance... (is it a coincidence the doors have the symbol of a door on it?).

I agree with this. You wouldn't start building a structure that was intended to be functional by putting up a pair of doors (unless there's more to it that we haven't seen, but that looked to me like an unmolested rock face rather than, say a load of earth that had been packed into the main part of a hatch). I do think the hatch and the entire village (remember the tents were all empty shells when Sayid came to examine them) were deliberate decoys, and I think the failed hatch is elsewhere.

[Indie88]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,September 30, 2006 09:00 am

?? I didnt steal it from anyone..post me alink to where you said this?

I'll find it, you just wait...

I've just got to remember where it is :P

EDIT: Hmmm - i've found one of the posts i was getting at, but it doesn't actually link this in the same post... i think i kinda had the idea in my head but didn't put it in writing properly... Except it vaguely does say that i thought the 'fake' hatch might be number 7, because it would make sense. I'm sure i said it somewhere! About them using it because it was 'handy' and prebuilt... I'll try and search again in a bit. I'm determind to find it now for myself!

I wasn't trying to start anything here by the way, it's just my style of writing can come across a bit....$&%^* on forums...