Not Fake Hatch but "Aborted #7"?

[Nickeshi]

Good point KoR/Indie, it might have been sealed off a bit like the swan was.

[Indie88]

I've found it! I've actually goshdarnit found it!

It was on the C4 forums lol took me ages to find!

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Posted 28-09-06 18:08
On the UV map there is a hatch (number 7) that says it was abandoned for some reason or other, maybe this is the hatch of the other's 'village'?

Which would mean that it wasn't fake, it was already there and it suited thier purposes.


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[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Indie88,September 30, 2006 10:17 pm

I've found it! I've actually goshdarnit found it!

It was on the C4 forums lol took me ages to find!

Wooooo!

C4!!?

Indie, i barely go on C4 these days..and i can assure you that i didnt see your post nor did i copy you.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Murgatroyd,September 30, 2006 06:32 pm

I do think the hatch and the entire village (remember the tents were all empty shells when Sayid came to examine them) were deliberate decoys, and I think the failed hatch is elsewhere.

I disagree. If you look on the map there are only 2 hatches located on the north shore of the island (where the pothers hatch was also located). And those 2 hatches are the 'Arrow' hatch..and the presumed 'aborted' hatch. Therefore where else could the 'failed' hatch (as you describe it) be? The one on the north shore is crossed out which imo signifies it was aborted.

[Murgatroyd]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,October 01, 2006 07:12 am

I disagree. If you look on the map there are only 2 hatches located on the north shore of the island (where the pothers hatch was also located). And those 2 hatches are the 'Arrow' hatch..and the presumed 'aborted' hatch. Therefore where else could the 'failed' hatch (as you describe it) be? The one on the north shore is crossed out which imo signifies it was aborted.

Okay... but then why did the builders erect a set of doors and nothing else? It's undeniably a pretty weird way of constructing a building. I agree that it could, in fact, be the presumed aborted hatch, but I also think that the person who made that presumption had to be incorrect.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Murgatroyd,October 01, 2006 09:07 am

Okay... but then why did the builders erect a set of doors and nothing else? It's undeniably a pretty weird way of constructing a building. I agree that it could, in fact, be the presumed aborted hatch, but I also think that the person who made that presumption had to be incorrect.

Ahh, but who says it's just a set of doors? My thoery..as outlined above somewhere, is that there is an actal hatch in operation behind the concrete wall. The hatch was apparetnyl aborted..however perhaps it'sd back in operation now or perhaps it was never 'really' aborted and instead made to look that way..

I dont agree with your last point about the 'person who made this 'assumption' having to be incorrect'. For one thing i reckon it was Radzinski (and Kelvin) who drew the map and he/they seemed to know alot..also he/they probably were one of them (Dharma/whoever built the hatches) and so i tend to trust the credibility/accuracy of that map personally.

[Murgatroyd]

However credible that map appeared, it was also fairly incomplete. It seemed to me that it was someone with a good amount of information and a powerful ability to work things out from what he knew, but there was also a lot of guesswork in there... not to mention the latin quotations. Perhaps the less certain hand is Kelvin's or possibly even Desmond's.

I didn't notice a concrete wall, so maybe you're right - I thought it was just an un-mined rock face. Perhaps it was a hatch that was filled in, rather like the base of the Swan, after some hideous disaster (or fake hideous disaster).

[D-Roc]

It 'may' be incomplete..but then..how complete do we want it? I mean, maybe it's not incomplete..perhaps all the info on there was meant to be on there with no additions. Perhaps it wasnt painted 'blind' (so to speak)..perhaps everything on that wall was intented to look like it was reeled off the back of someones memory..

However, like i inferred, maybe you're right..maybe it is alot of incompeted guesswork? Perhaps Des did also contribute..afterall the "lift up your heart" bit is alot like his "lift it up" quote to Jack in MOSMOF..

And maybe, like you say, the hatch was filled in after some disaster. Infact this is why i think it was said to have been 'aborted' - due to the incident or sickness..? However i do believe that the hatch is currently active.

[Nickeshi]

The logo on the others hatch could have just been a door, and maybe thats all it is.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Nickeshi,October 01, 2006 09:52 am

The logo on the others hatch could have just been a door, and maybe thats all it is.

Like Murgs comments all very plausible. I just think it's a 'window' symbol..much like the stonehenge-type 'window' that symbolically sits right by it.

..windows, doors..maybe semantics? Essentially i think that both the hatch (and it's symbol) and the stonehenge type window structure represents a portal..a gateway if you will. This may sounds bizarre but i reckon that the others are able to cross to the otherside (where Yemi, Ana etc are) or something like that.

[Indie88]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,October 01, 2006 08:07 am

C4!!?

Indie, i barely go on C4 these days..and i can assure you that i didnt see your post nor did i copy you.

I know, i was always joking around. I was only so bothered because i couldn't find it and it made me look like a liar lol.

And KoR, you're desperate for Ana to come back to the how, aren't you!

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Indie88,October 01, 2006 11:42 am

I know, i was always joking around. I was only so bothered because i couldn't find it and it made me look like a liar lol.

And KoR, you're desperate for Ana to come back to the how, aren't you!

lol, but Why do you say that? What relation has that got to what were talking about

[Mantis Zero]

Its a good theory but this is why I dont think that was actually the aborted hatch:



The doors are quite clearly simply fixed to the rock face, no cement to indicate there ever was anything there other than a set of fake doors.

[Murgatroyd]

Ah. Yeah, see... that does just look like an untouched rock face to me rather than an excavated hatch that's been filled in.

[Indie88]

..windows, doors..maybe semantics? Essentially i think that both the hatch (and it's symbol) and the stonehenge type window structure represents a portal..a gateway if you will. This may sounds bizarre but i reckon that the others are able to cross to the otherside (where Yemi, Ana etc are) or something like that. soch.gif

Because of that and other things...