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Old 04-17-2008, 11:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here's something that crossed my mind the other day when thinking about the possible circumstances that Kate got her clutches on Aaron..

Well, we know that there's alot of ambiguity surrouding the way in which Ben become Alex' father..some say she was stolen from Rousseau, whilst other observers point to the idea that Ben saved her..or that some other means of allocating children to suitable parents was used. Perhaps involving 'the island'..perhaps involving island deduction, or something

Anyway, what if Kate's aquisition of Aaron happened in a similar fashion to Ben becoming Alexandra's father? We also have that scene from Season 2 where Rousseau begged Kate to shoot her - a possible parallel which was planted involving one past mother, one present mother (Claire) and one future mother (Kate)..

Then there's the 'knowing looks' parellel, in which Ben and the Others share 'knowing looks' with Rousseau, and Kate and Jack share 'knowing looks' in their flash-forwards.

I just think there's potentially something similar in the way that both Rousseau and Claire came to lose their children to other parents. I'm not sure whether this has any value or whether I should let it float in the wind, but i've put it out there and possibly come back to it.
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Old 04-18-2008, 12:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i do think it is intwined within Lost for mothers to lose their children. Perhaps to the bad people?
And good thinking on the Danielle/Claire/Kate issue about their mother roles.
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Interesting - I would kinda look at it the otherway and suggest that if anything the island likes children and would want them to be with good..better parents? Although it's also interesting to consider whether this is part of the plan, or whether it doesn't 'have' to be this way.

I guess the islands fertility problems (possibly subconciously being caused by Ben's scarred memories?) suggest that a ruling hand plays a role in deciding who should parent a child. If so, it would seem that sacrificing a child - be it in death or to another parent, is not so much a sacrifice, but a forced outcome. Is the island guarding against a greater evil by purging island conceived children and their mothers?

Was Claire forced to give up Aaron? Perhaps not by Kate, but by circumstance?
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The births were similar too, they both crashed at 7 months and gave birth on the island, which to be fair the odds of survival had to be pretty slim.
Back to the Kate issue, she was the one who actually delivered Aaron and the one who realised and told Dani that Alex was alive and who she was.
Also Alex was the one who rescued Clare, which in hindsite is weird as she must know the problems that babies/pregnant women have and the fact that the others weren't going to hurt her ( well I don't think so??) so why did she let her escape back to more danger really. Given the choice of Jack on an island or Juliet in an island maternity ward I think I'd have stayed!!
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Also, both Claire and Rousseau have been saved by the island - or spared depending upon how we want to look at it. The island surely rebirthed Claire (or cushioned her landing) from the plane wrackage, and it has allowed Rousseau to live on it's land for 16 years without purging her - as it did Eko, for example. Why does the island purge some but not others? Do the islanders manifest their OWN judgements - Eko being unlucky enough to face (the island in the guise of) his own judgemental brother, Rousseau being lucky enough not to be able to remember the events from her past, hence the island having no 'data' from with to extract?

I agree, the odds of survival for Claire and the Losties was very slim, so the island must have played a part in her/their regeneration. Infact the island seems to have a governing hand in many outcomes, whether it's directly or via a third party or by other means (such as reducing it's residents to go crazy). Could the island have told Ben to take Alex? Could the island have decided which hand should raise Aaron?

Yes, good catch - Kate was indeed the one who helped birth Aaron..Jin was also there, I believe Interestingly Jin is presumed dead in the future - is any of this linked?

I never did understand Alex' motivation for 'rescuing' Claire - either she is ignorant or she genuinely thought that Claire was better off with the Losties and exposed to the potential sickness. Alex is known to be a bit of a rebel, so perhaps we can put it down to her wanting to put one over her dear old dad?
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Yes, good catch - Kate was indeed the one who helped birth Aaron..Jin was also there, I believe Interestingly Jin is presumed dead in the future - is any of this linked?

More interesting is that they are the 2 who have children in the flashforwards

I never did understand Alex' motivation for 'rescuing' Claire - either she is ignorant or she genuinely thought that Claire was better off with the Losties and exposed to the potential sickness. Alex is known to be a bit of a rebel, so perhaps we can put it down to her wanting to put one over her dear old dad?
I'm sure that Alex isn't ignorant, not with her breeding!! but as you say there seems to be no real reason at all, maybe now she's met Mummy and Daddy all will be revealed.

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