Oceanic 6 - Numbers theory

[esn]

I was just thinking about this, and why is it the Oceanic 6, not the Oceanic 8 - I mean its gotta link with the numbers right? And then it hit me.

6 lotto numbers.

And then a lightbulb went off in my head has I remembered a theory that I had back in S1, back in the CH4SF days, heck I think I even included it in my orginal GUT!

6 numbers. 6 losties.

Basically I used to think that each of the 'losties' 'has' one of the 'numbers' (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42) and that some of the 'numbers' had at least one or more 'lostie' attached to it.

Now Im beginning to think that the way to finding out who the 'Oceanic 6' are is if, somehow, we link one of the numbers to a lostie. Sadly I cant remember who I linked to which number that well so there are gaps but see if this sets anyone thinking to who can have what number.

I am also open to the possablity, that in fact there are two sets of 6, the oceanic 6 and the island 6, the 6 suriviors of the crash who, for whatever reason, failed to make it off the island. This also leads us into one of the other themes of the show, that of duality. Of course this means that maybe, some are destined to die has well

Thus I belive that we could have the following groups oranised has follows:

Number Oceanic 6 Island 6

4 ??? Locke
8 Hurley ???
15 ??? ???
16 Jack ???
23 Kate ???
42 ??? ???

Now, obviously, the '???' means I dont have a clue who has that number because I dont have any good reasons why they should have that number. But I do belive that Hurleys number is 8 - if I can get the screen shots Ill show you but the news report in the latest episode was on channel 8, and the lotto ticket seemed to show a number 8 on it. Jacks 'number' I belive is 16 because of what he said in the piliot about his first solo procedure being on a 16 year old girl. Finally I belive Kate has the number 23 because of the Aus$23,000 reward on her head for her capture.

Has for the 'Island 6', I belive that the number 4 belongs to Locke, because of his connection to the island, and the fact he spent 4 years in a wheel chair.

[Lauren [is Lost]]

That's a really good theory, actually. I guess it makes sense that there were 6 who got off the island as there are 6 numbers...can anyone else can match the other numbers to other losties?

[esn]

Originally Posted by Lauren [is Lost]

That's a really good theory, actually. I guess it makes sense that there were 6 who got off the island as there are 6 numbers...can anyone else can match the other numbers to other losties?

Well I did think about 42 being Claire and Aarron - 4 and half that is 2 but I cant think of a logical reason why they should have those numbers

[D-Roc]

It's an interesting theory. Incidentally I would also represent the number 8 to Hurley, although i can't remember why.

The numbers, I feel, have to interlink somewhere in the schema of fate and coincidence. I mean, numbers = science..yet are they are also the bedrock of aspects of faith (passages from the Bible, for example).

If fate and coincidence were a mechanism..surely the formula for creating or operating that mechanism would be numbers...and if the numbers are linked to certain characters, then fate has it's puppets.

Which, seems to be the case with the Oceanic 3..or certainly two of them so far (Jack and Hurley)..so it would seem that they are on fates string..

"it wants us to go back"

I'm interested to see you develop this theory esn, it's got potential!

I'll move this to T&S, where it seems more suited

[Addicted*to*lost]

Wow! Thats way too much thinking for me!! How do you come up with these theories? lol

[The Wizard]

Maybe their seat numbers on the plane are their numbers...?

[Him]

Interesting theory.

Originally Posted by The Wizard

Maybe their seat numbers on the plane are their numbers...?

Passenger Seat Number Status
Boone Carlyle 9E Dead
Shannon Rutherford 9F Dead
Hugo "Hurley" Reyes 20G 20H Alive
Jack Shephard 23B Alive
Rose Nadler 23D Alive
Bernard Nadler 23E Alive
John Locke 24D Alive
Claire Littleton 27C Alive
Edward Mars 27G Dead
Kate Austen 27H Alive
Charlie Pace 29C Dead
Ana-Lucia Cortez 42F Dead

I don't think so - AL is dead.

[Kennindra47]

And the passenger seat theory would suggest that Kate wasn't one of the Oceanic 6.

[esn]

Originally Posted by Addicted*to*lost

Wow! Thats way too much thinking for me!! How do you come up with these theories? lol

Its easy - just a bit of imagination, just a lot of thought, and then just type what you are thinking and let it ramble on. At least thats what I do.

BTW welcome .

[esn]

Originally Posted by D-Roc

It's an interesting theory. Incidentally I would also represent the number 8 to Hurley, although i can't remember why.

The numbers, I feel, have to interlink somewhere in the schema of fate and coincidence. I mean, numbers = science..yet are they are also the bedrock of aspects of faith (passages from the Bible, for example).

If fate and coincidence were a mechanism..surely the formula for creating or operating that mechanism would be numbers...and if the numbers are linked to certain characters, then fate has it's puppets.

Which, seems to be the case with the Oceanic 3..or certainly two of them so far (Jack and Hurley)..so it would seem that they are on fates string..

"it wants us to go back"

I'm interested to see you develop this theory esn, it's got potential!

I'll move this to T&S, where it seems more suited

Well its sorta a theory I had for a while - I need to find what I worte about it in the orginal GUT, and its just about the only part, I belive that hasnt been contradicted in someway . I also belive its the one of the first theories I ever had back in the SFC4 days . So in a way its not a new theory, its one thats just been revisited. Ill try and find what I worte then and post it here to compare it to what I think now.

I agree with everything that youve said, its pretty much how I want to illustrate what Im getting at here. Ive always belived that the numbers do hold some meaning than just being mere easter eggs and that somehow, they bring all the 'losties' together, what with all the connections they all have.

Effectively, those numbers brought them to the island in some shape and form, one could argue that the numbers were responsible for the whole crash in the first place. Furthermore, its not just the 'losties' who were influenced by numbers, but also Danielle and Desmond also, and indirectly, 'the others'. which means, even more indirectly, the 'boaties' are also brought to the island by the numbers. In short - everyone on that island has been influenced by those numbers.

Why they are so powerful does remain to be seen of course - which then leads us to my 'central governor theory' an entirely different thread but basically somone or somthing be it a person, an entitiey or fate itself is using these numbers to bring all this together, and thus bring together the people involved.

[esn]

Ok update on this theory. We now know that Sayid is one of the Oceanic 6. Maybe Ben also but that hasnt been confirmed. Now I am at odds to has what number to give Sayid. My intuition is telling me, for some reason, that number 15 fits best with Sayid ( dont ask me why) but if anyone can give me another number for Sayid then I would like to hear it. However, I would like to point out that, for some reason number 4 also looks attractive for Sayid as well, because for some reason I feel that he can balance Locke. But Ill stick with my gut and have Sayid at 15 for now. Thus:

Number Oceanic 6 Island 6

4 ??? Locke
8 Hurley ???
15 Sayid ???
16 Jack ???
23 Kate ???
42 ??? ???

Has for future Oceanic 6 members, Im veering towards the unity of Sun and Aarron being 42 but Im not confident enough to put them there. Locke remains soild with number 4 on the island side, and I am happy to give Sawyer number 8 since its pretty obvious to me that hes staying (age when Father shot Mother and then self) for the island side also. Nothing else jumps out at me thus:

Number Oceanic 6 Island 6

4 ??? Locke
8 Hurley Sawyer
15 Sayid ???
16 Jack ???
23 Kate ???
42 ??? ???

[esn]

Update:

It seems that I have good intuition since it seems that Claire isnt alive, nor did she make it off the island. It also seems that Aarron isnt one of the oceanic 6. Claire could be one of the island 6 though - maybe number 16 to be paired with Jack.

[Andy9283]

Also just like these numbers keep occuring everywhere, lost keeps reminding us that the lives of every1 on flight 815 are more closely entwined than we think. Eg Claire and Jack bro and sis, and Sayides US toture master ending up on island.

[Jacob is...[Chloe]]

I thought that perhaps their seat numbers they were sat on the plane would be the six numbers of the island, but i dont know where they were sat.

Can i just say how LUCKY is Hurley? That's right LUCKY. He wins the lottery, then crash lands in the island but survives and then is one of the few that is rescued!!