Healing Island

[Jesskah]

I have thought this for a long time and last nights eppy confirmed it for me. The Island has healing abilities.
Firstly theres Locke. He was paralysed and when they crashed he could walk again.
Then there is Jin. He was infertile but now Sun is pregnant.
Next is Rose. He had a disease that is killing her and now she believes it has gone.
Also there is Saywer [he got shot and it healed very quick] and there is Aaron [he had a virus or something and also healed quick.

I this has all been done for the survivors to want to stay on the island so Dhama/Hanso can keep some sort of experiment going.

Also I think having a 'problem' with them was the main reason they got on the island. When Bernard said last night 'I had 3 phonecalls reccomending Issac' or something like that I think it could have been Island Agents making sure they got to Australia and when Rose couldn't be healed they had to get on flight 815 to get home so I think Issac (I think thats his name) could have been an Island Agent aswell.

I'm not totally sure how they got healed but I think it has something to do with magnetism becase we all know there is some kind of magnet on the island from when Jack first went into the hatch and when Issac was trying to heal Rose he said something about magnetism.

[Ché]

He did, he said that there are spots with this magnetism all over the world, such as right below where he was apparently, and he usually channels the energy into the, er, patient.. But he said it was not the right place for Rose and he seemed to determine that pretty quickly..

Seems like the island is the right place then! Doesn't seem like the magnetism needs a healer to channel the energy on this island though, must be a magnetism hotspot!

[D-Roc]

I agree with you on the island having healing properties and on the likes of Isaac basically refering certain people to Hanso foundation.

It seems likely that the island naturally has healing properties..perhaps this is the only place on earth with such 'energy' and hence why it is so secret? Maybe Magnus Hanso first discovered it when he sailed the Black Rock there or whatever? maybe the island was already inhabited and he took over, driving the natives underground [so t speak]..although that last part i very much doubt myself, lol.

But it does seem likely that this island..this naturally powerful island has been used as a scientific 'garden of Eden' for the past 50 or 60 years. Perhaps 'Hanso' werent even the first 'outsiders' to find the island..maybe there was another establishment there before them?

I think the island has "hotspots" [i believe Isaac called them]..certain areas on the island that allow for it's natural energy to be harnessed and chanelled. Perhaps this is how the BS is powered..although magnetism is also the likely power source for it.

Just a quick thought..weve often seen the likes of Rose and Locke just sitting on the beach in a peaceful fashion..i wonder whether they were actually sitting on these 'hotspots' without even knowing it?

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Ché,Aug 30 2006, 12:17 PM

Seems like the island is the right place then! Doesn't seem like the magnetism needs a healer to channel the energy on this island though, must be a magnetism hotspot!

Yes, good point..although i suspect there are a couple of Malkins and Isaacs there on the island. Or perhaps thats why they took Walt..because no-one on their side is powerful enough to harness a particular hotspot?

But youre right in that it does seem as if the island automatically heals..though i still suspect that Locke's legs were both manipulated 'on' and then 'off' [in Deus ex] and then 'on' again by the Hanso people. Which means they know how to manipulate and 'control' this energy..?

[E Pluribus Unum]

Yeah I was just about to say KoRevo, that perhaps the likes of Eko, Locke have harnessed this power (Eko in 23rd Pslma and Locke in Walkabout) when they both confronted 'something' (weather it was the BS on both occasions is debatable) but they both came face to face with something. And especially in Ekos instance seemed to for a moment stop the BS - of course it could be possible that the BS was 'scanning him' or something.
Anyway, just a thought!

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by E PLURIBUS UNUM,Sep 1 2006, 17:43 PM

Yeah I was just about to say KoRevo, that perhaps the likes of Eko, Locke have harnessed this power (Eko in 23rd Pslma and Locke in Walkabout) when they both confronted 'something' (weather it was the BS on both occasions is debatable) but they both came face to face with something. And especially in Ekos instance seemed to for a moment stop the BS - of course it could be possible that the BS was 'scanning him' or something.
Anyway, just a thought!*

Yeah, good thinking..i have harboured a thought that the BS projected something into them [or something like that]. Although, it is likey that what Locke saw was similar to what Eko saw..except maybe Locke saw images from his past that were far more awe inspiring than Eko's? Then again, Locke is the type of man to see awe and wonder in almost anything out of the norm!

But going back to the healing thing - maybe Locke was further 'healed' when he looked into the BS..we know that he had already be fixed due to the fact that he could walk, but maybe the cure isnt only physical..but mental..? maybe tapping into the subconcious can cure someone..or at least affect them for the better or worse..i mean as a parallel, look at Charlie..his 'dream' affected him terribly and that dream seemed to be drawn from his subconcious/past..

[E Pluribus Unum]

Yeah we (and all the other losties) were led to believe that Locke catching the boar was the reason he seemed more 'proud' of himself. But it would seem that whatever he 'saw' also bled confidence and self belief into the guy..

Similar with Eko, he was starting to doubt himself after what had happened to his brother but it would seem he's had his 'faith' realigned - what with him building a church N all!

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by E PLURIBUS UNUM,Sep 1 2006, 17:56 PM

Yeah we (and all the other losties) were led to believe that Locke catching the boar was the reason he seemed more 'proud' of himself. But it would seem that whatever he 'saw' also bled confidence and self belief into the guy..

Similar with Eko, he was starting to doubt himself after what had happened to his brother but it would seem he's had his 'faith' realigned - what with him building a church N all!

Yeah, it seems that what Eko saw in the BS gave him confirmation as to his purpose etc..especially the last image of the cross..i think it was Murgatroyd who mentioned that at the time..

[Hordriss]

Originally Posted by Ché,August 30, 2006 11:37 am

He did, he said that there are spots with this magnetism all over the world, such as right below where he was apparently, and he usually channels the energy into the, er, patient.. But he said it was not the right place for Rose and he seemed to determine that pretty quickly..

Seems like the island is the right place then! Doesn't seem like the magnetism needs a healer to channel the energy on this island though, must be a magnetism hotspot!

Or perhaps "Lostzilla" itself is the medium, or maybe the whispers. It looks as though the island has become some sort of ghost-trap - maybe Dharma's fault? The symbols they use like the bagua logo, the heiroglyphs, and the "evil eye" on the Oceanic logo suggest they were messing about with the occult as well as science. Perhaps it is their fault that the island has developed a "mind of its own", and seems to be manipulating the Losties for some agenda as yet unknown (Freeing all the trapped souls? Sounds cheesy, but you never know...). The healing process can be whipped away instantly, as we saw in "Deus Ex", so there has to be some intelligence behind it (although I have to admit: the old theory of a control device in Locke's spine, planted during the kidney op, would explain it just as well).

[Snowy~Owl]

I believe magnetic therapy is still used today. I've had a look at a couple of sites through Google, and magnetic therapy is used to relieve pain. I wonder therefore, if our characters are not cured but merely relieved of their symptoms.

Going back to John Locke and the fact that his legs failed him when Boone needed to climb the cliff. Maybe it was pain that prevented him from walking. If the others had a way of covering or deflecting the magnetic field then that may explain why Locke's symptoms seemed to appear at the most convenient time for the island.

If Lockes symptoms can come and go then does this mean that Rose too could find herself fallen victim to her illness again, should the island need to direct her in a certain direction?

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Hordriss,September 02, 2006 09:11 am

Or perhaps "Lostzilla" itself is the medium, or maybe the whispers. It looks as though the island has become some sort of ghost-trap - maybe Dharma's fault? The symbols they use like the bagua logo, the heiroglyphs, and the "evil eye" on the Oceanic logo suggest they were messing about with the occult as well as science. Perhaps it is their fault that the island has developed a "mind of its own", and seems to be manipulating the Losties for some agenda as yet unknown (Freeing all the trapped souls? Sounds cheesy, but you never know...). The healing process can be whipped away instantly, as we saw in "Deus Ex", so there has to be some intelligence behind it (although I have to admit: the old theory of a control device in Locke's spine, planted during the kidney op, would explain it just as well).

Interesting.. ..ive harboured a thought that the island is in some way a sentient..or at least some aspects of it is 'alive' in the truest sense [if indeed that is what you are implying].

And i like idea that Hanso or whoever dabbling in the occult aswell as science..that would indeed explain alot! ..or begin to explain alot anyway.

In saying that such a thing would have to be handled well so as not to come across really naff. But the more i think about it the more it would make sense. For example, it would give us another spin on the whispers, the black smoke, the references to the underword and "cerberus" etc....

[Hordriss]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,September 02, 2006 03:01 pm

In saying that such a thing would have to be handled well so as not to come across really naff. But the more i think about it the more it would make sense. For example, it would give us another spin on the whispers, the black smoke, the references to the underword and "cerberus" etc....

I think even the most devoted of sci-fi fans and realists will have to come to terms with one or two fantasy elements in "Lost", but I think we can at least be sure they'll be well-researched (which doesn't necessarily add up to "satisfying", but we must keep the faith ). The all-purpose theory of nanobots has been denied - although so has purgatory (which is a good sign, as it looks as though the writers are aiming for freshness in all their fields).

Mind you, if there was a truly clever and neat realistic key to the series, I would much rather have that. However, I'm happier to accept the idea of ghosts than that of hundreds of little concealed speakers broadcasting the whispers.

[D-Roc]

True, we must indeed have faith in the creators vision. In actual fact I do have faith in them..i just worry sometimes when I think of ghosts and ghouls running about the island.. However the more I think about ti the more i reckon they will handle it correctly [should this indeed be the direction of the show].

lol..I do think it possible that there are concealed speakers located at certain points on the island, thus enabling the whispers to be produced..though my views on that have changed slightly since seeing the blast door map and the glyphs [and my interpretation of their meaning] etc. :P

[Hooting Heck]

Originally Posted by Snowy~Owl,September 02, 2006 09:13 am

I believe magnetic therapy is still used today. I've had a look at a couple of sites through Google, and magnetic therapy is used to relieve pain.

Sorry Snowy, but did you look on www.badscience.net? Magnetic, and electromagnetic therapy, in the real world, it's moonshine!

Doesn't mean it can't be part of the LOST world, of course.

The thing I liked about Isaac of Uluru was his reaction when he realised he couldn't help Rose. He was 'tuning in', or doing the Vulcan Mind Meld or whatever, then suddenly opened his eyes (nice bit of music to emphasise the moment). Then immediately admitted he couldn't help her and offered her money back (so he's not a con merchant).

That look at Rose, seemed a lot more to it than disappointment and apology. It was like he detected or relaised something about her. I'd sure like to see what it said in the script notes!

Plus the ambiguity in, "There's nothing I can do for you", like she was doomed!

But then again they were probably just farting about with the drama.

[Hooting Heck]

Originally Posted by Snowy~Owl,September 02, 2006 09:13 am

Going back to John Locke and the fact that his legs failed him when Boone needed to climb the cliff. Maybe it was pain that prevented him from walking. If the others had a way of covering or deflecting the magnetic field then that may explain why Locke's symptoms seemed to appear at the most convenient time for the island.

Locke's paralysis could be psychosomatic, coming and going as and when it (subconsciously) suits him.

I'm going on memory, but he went looking for the Beechcraft because he believed the island wanted him to do something. If he'd climbed into the Beechcraft and got killed like Boone, he wouldn't have been able to fulfil the destiny the island had planned for him. Hence, "Oh no, my legs don't work. Boone you'll have to go".

Every other explanation I've seen is inconsistent or senseless. The 'healing properties' of the island really highlight that aspect of the mysteries. Every underlying explanation seems contradictory and suggests that, whatever the island is doing, it's out of control and there's no intelligent hand or mind guiding a lot of it.