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Default Mikhail is only alive because of Desmond

Yes, not because Locke is some holy devine being that can't kill as some would believe, but solely because of Desmond. And for that matter Charlie, indirectly. You see, this is all because of the changing of fate and of time that Desmond had recently done with Charlie. When Desmond saves Charlie, the universe, or whatever powers control us, alters 'the picture', so to speak. And so when Charlie was saved, the universe has to alter it's course; thus bringing back Mikhail. See, as a result of Desmond's actions, the universe's course brough Mikhail back, all because of Charlie not dying. Think about it, Mikhail got pushed into the solar fence (by Locke) and it was clear that he died. Even Mikhail himself said it "I have died once already", or something like that. It is Desmond, and his fate altering ways, that brought back Mikhail.
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Old 04-30-2007, 06:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default RE: Mikhail is only alive because of Desmond

Intersting, very intersting and certianly a possablity. But I would look at the islands healing properties, or the fact that the fence might have simply put him in a coma.
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I think it just stuns people, if it killed them there should be a few dead animals around at least
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Seems a bit implausible that desmond changing something in the present would alter the past surely desmond not letting Charlie die would only have reprecusions in the future.

I think it is more likely to be something to do with the Islands healing properties but that also seems unlikely as other people have died on the Island and not been healed.
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I think it just stuns people, if it killed them there should be a few dead animals around at least
Cleared away by Others? Or maybe animals can detect it, y'know like they can detect alot of stuff we can't. And if it just stuns them why did he start bleeding from just about every orofice? Plus what animals are there?
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Seems a bit implausible that desmond changing something in the present would alter the past surely desmond not letting Charlie die would only have reprecusions in the future.

I think it is more likely to be something to do with the Islands healing properties but that also seems unlikely as other people have died on the Island and not been healed.
No I'm not saying that it altered Mikhail from dying in the past, I'm saying he did die, but the island brought him back as a result of Des changing fate. I mean he obviously wasn't buried, so fate needed only to bring him back to life, when Des changed the course of time.
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Seems a bit implausible that desmond changing something in the present would alter the past surely desmond not letting Charlie die would only have reprecusions in the future.

I think it is more likely to be something to do with the Islands healing properties but that also seems unlikely as other people have died on the Island and not been healed.
No I'm not saying that it altered Mikhail from dying in the past, I'm saying he did die, but the island brought him back as a result of Des changing fate. I mean he obviously wasn't buried, so fate needed only to bring him back to life, when Des changed the course of time.
I see so maybe if charlie had died it would have stopped Mikhail from being brought back.
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Default RE: Mikhail is only alive because of Desmond

It's no doubt a possibility imo. I believe that Desmond saving Charlie could've changed who was under that mask so there's no reason why it couldn't have changed over stuff too. Furthermore, Mikhael could've been brought back 'from the dead' so he could in fact save Naomi. Maybe it's fate for her to survive and that was why Mikhael was brought back?
There are other explanations though that have already been said that I'd probably put first - the fence just stunning people certainly one of the more obvious ones.
I quite like the fate changing theory though, so I don't necessarily put all my faith in the idea but I do think it's quite considerable.
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Default RE: Mikhail is only alive because of Desmond

I posted something similar.. I like this angle, but a few thoughts:

I hear what you're saying and it's a good idea. The only thing that makes me doubt Desmond affected Mikhails timeline is the fact that Mikahil seemed to know he would be back. Looking back at his 'death' in retrospect his "thankyou" can now be viewed as Mik knowing that he would be back at somepoint. Now Im not sure that this certainly was forged on the belief that Des would make the correct choice to facilitate his revival.. I think Desmonds freewill was never a set in stone at the time Mikky 'died', hecne i believe that Mikhails confidence (that he would come back) was based on something else..

I reckon that there is either someone else just like Desmond on Team Other - perhaps someone with similar powers..someone who can change fate. But even then this idea is negated by the fact that they havent rebirthed Ethan, Cole or any of the others (as far as we know).

So perhaps it's simply a case of Mikky going into a coma..perhaps he knew he would come back because he knew that the field only puts peeps into a temporary state of 'sleep' (coma)..?

Dont get me wrong, i do like the idea of Desmonds gift being able to affect more than his own direct path (and those closely affiliated with it) and it works on many levels. I just think the main stumbling block is Mikhails sheer confidence that he would be back (i.e. his "thankyou" line to Locke). Well at least thats how im viewing that line in retrospect.
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