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Sawyer_Rocks · 09-06-2006, 10:36 PM

One wise man told me a parent will do anything to save it's child.

E.e, Rousseau kidnapped Aaron to save her child, Claire persuaded Charlie in to saving her child (while she sat on her ass, but hey), and Mike shot Ana Lucia and Libby. For his child? Well that's the theory going round.

But what if he did it on impulse? Like Rousseau did? What if he thought, hey, this is my chance! And shot Ana and Libby and freed Henry hoping that the others would be pleased?

lost-lover · 09-06-2006, 10:42 PM

Good theory, but as Henry said (not that Mike heard it "they'll never give you Walt" it's been said since S1 Walt's special and clearly the others think he's a "good person" maybe too good to hand back? My theory (as i've said about ten times today and everyone's probably sick of it :P ) is that Michael freed Henry and shot Ana and Libby (Libby i beleive was purely wrong place wrong time) to make it look as though Henry did it and therefore enraging everyone enough to go to war with the others and get walt back that way but you never know

hundredand8 · 09-06-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lost-lover,September 06, 2006 08:42 pm

Good theory, but as Henry said (not that Mike heard it "they'll never give you Walt" it's been said since S1 Walt's special and clearly the others think he's a "good person" maybe too good to hand back? My theory (as i've said about ten times today and everyone's probably sick of it :P ) is that Michael freed Henry and shot Ana and Libby (Libby i beleive was purely wrong place wrong time) to make it look as though Henry did it and therefore enraging everyone enough to go to war with the others and get walt back that way but you never know

I'm not sick of it as its the first time I've read it

But I don't believe its true.

Firstly, Michael did not have his gun. The one he took from Locke before he headed for the jungle. Now how did he loose that? Obvious, he's been captured by the Others. So then they brainwashed him or they offered him a deal. Either way, Henrys opinion ("they never give you Walt&quot

is irrelevant. All thats required is that Michael believes they will give him Walt. They may or may not do that, and when the deal was struck Henry was out of the loop anyway. We'll see.

Secondly, if he has NOT been captured, then he only had a few hours to come up with this plan between waking up from a coma and taking action. Pretty drastic, don't you think.

"Oh, they caught one of them. Here's my chance to get Walt back. I'll release him. Oh, and I make it looke like he killed Ana, and I'll shoot myself as well so as to make it look he tried to kill me. And then he will be so grateful he'll just head off for the jungle without ACTUALLY killing me, and then we will follow his trail and get Walt back."

It doesn't work for me. Sorry.

Sawyer_Rocks · 09-06-2006, 11:15 PM

Yours is a good theory Lostlover, but I think that he could have done it without killing Ana Lucia, and she'dve been a good soldier! I don't think Micheal would stoop so low, only for his son! But if he wouldn't stoop so low, why kill Ana?

esn · 09-06-2006, 11:54 PM

I like the idea LostLover, but Id rule it our based on the fact that Micheal isnt the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to making those sort of plans. Id rule out brainwashing since he seemed pretty shocked and shaky that he had done it and couldnt belive he had done it. So I reckon that hes been offered a Walt related deal. Weather they stick to it of course is irllevant since has he may be too valueble to them to give up anyway. But then whos knows what those guys think?

Hooting Heck · 09-07-2006, 01:21 AM

I've always expected the Others to use Walt to manipulate Michael. But to kill someone in cold blood like that?

What have they threatened to do to Walt, that would make Michael kill? Once he had the gun, and she'd told him the combination, he could have just threatened to shoot her while he freed Henry. Then Michael and Henry could have tied Ana Lucia up and legged it through the jungle, hand in hand, skipping.

That's what I would have expected anyway. Only, my brother rang me when Ana Lucia had it off with Sawyer to say, "She's dead", then hung up. He rang again when Libby said she'd go and fetch blankets, and said, "She's dead", then hung up. So I wasn't surprised.

On the whole, I'd say 'Mike did it on impulse' is probably right. He clearly had some kind of mission, but no definite plan formulated, and took the earliest opportunity that was presented to him.
He may also have heard/seen Ana Lucia's earlier attempt to execute Henry, and thought he'd better do something quick before she strengthened her resolve.

Mantis Zero · 09-07-2006, 01:23 AM

Its unlikely Michael just decided to kill Ana on impulse, we know from his past behavior he is no killer (threatening to shoot the computer rather than Jack for example). He's not been brainwashed either and his reactions to shooting both Ana and especially Libby weren't those of a man who thought this was a good idea. I can only conclude hes on a mission from the others in return for Walt's safety (ie. They said they would harm Walt if he did not co-operate fully).

Hooting Heck · 09-07-2006, 01:23 AM

That last point was cobblers. If Michael had seen Ana Lucia's intent to shoot Henry, he'd have had to do something to stop her.

Hooting Heck · 09-07-2006, 01:24 AM

woops, Mantis, I was referring to MY last point.

Mantis Zero · 09-07-2006, 01:28 AM

lol no worries HH, you can actually use your edit function here by the way unlike C4's forums so if you post something and see a mistake you want to change or take out feel free!

Hooting Heck · 09-07-2006, 01:33 AM

Yes, I've used the edit function here, but it's like taking the best laughs away.

We don' need no steenkeen edit.

Mantis Zero · 09-07-2006, 01:42 AM

Well I could always edit it for you

j/k!

kirsty290182 · 09-07-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mantis Zero,September 06, 2006 11:42 pm

Well I could always edit it for you

j/k!

Hooting Heck · 09-07-2006, 02:01 AM

Nah, leave it. The correction is the same as an edit. Besides, didn't you ever hear of unconscious creation, Freudian slips, all that ?

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

I blame Locke. If Locke had told Jack that Ana Lucia's head injury was because Henry tried to kill her, Jack would never have left Ana Lucia alone (apart from an unconscious Michael) in the Swan.

"Jack, there's something I should tell you". He even admitted it!

Him · 09-07-2006, 02:04 AM

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I blame Locke.

I never saw that one coming!

09-06-2006, 10:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sawyer_Rocks Hunting Survivor Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 316	What if Mike did it on impulse? One wise man told me a parent will do anything to save it's child. E.e, Rousseau kidnapped Aaron to save her child, Claire persuaded Charlie in to saving her child (while she sat on her ass, but hey), and Mike shot Ana Lucia and Libby. For his child? Well that's the theory going round. But what if he did it on impulse? Like Rousseau did? What if he thought, hey, this is my chance! And shot Ana and Libby and freed Henry hoping that the others would be pleased?

09-06-2006, 10:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
lost-lover Gilgamesh Survivor Pacman Champion! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Across the sea to a land of make-believe... Fave Character: Sawyer Lost Item: Jack's Stones Posts: 2,086 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	What if Mike did it on impulse? Good theory, but as Henry said (not that Mike heard it "they'll never give you Walt" it's been said since S1 Walt's special and clearly the others think he's a "good person" maybe too good to hand back? My theory (as i've said about ten times today and everyone's probably sick of it :P ) is that Michael freed Henry and shot Ana and Libby (Libby i beleive was purely wrong place wrong time) to make it look as though Henry did it and therefore enraging everyone enough to go to war with the others and get walt back that way but you never know __________________ Beware Ben the bunny boiler ... In marriage you need a full deck of cards. A heart to love the guy, a diamond to marry him, a club to beat him and a spade to bury him! I'm running from the clown...

09-06-2006, 11:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sawyer_Rocks Hunting Survivor Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 316	What if Mike did it on impulse? Yours is a good theory Lostlover, but I think that he could have done it without killing Ana Lucia, and she'dve been a good soldier! I don't think Micheal would stoop so low, only for his son! But if he wouldn't stoop so low, why kill Ana?

09-06-2006, 11:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
esn "So this is it, huh?" Survivor 3 foot ninja Champion! 8 Ball Champion Champion! 2 Hand Poker Champion! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sussex by the sea Fave Character: Hurley Posts: 4,020 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	What if Mike did it on impulse? I like the idea LostLover, but Id rule it our based on the fact that Micheal isnt the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to making those sort of plans. Id rule out brainwashing since he seemed pretty shocked and shaky that he had done it and couldnt belive he had done it. So I reckon that hes been offered a Walt related deal. Weather they stick to it of course is irllevant since has he may be too valueble to them to give up anyway. But then whos knows what those guys think? __________________

09-07-2006, 01:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
Hooting Heck Two Sides Survivor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 200	What if Mike did it on impulse? I've always expected the Others to use Walt to manipulate Michael. But to kill someone in cold blood like that? What have they threatened to do to Walt, that would make Michael kill? Once he had the gun, and she'd told him the combination, he could have just threatened to shoot her while he freed Henry. Then Michael and Henry could have tied Ana Lucia up and legged it through the jungle, hand in hand, skipping. That's what I would have expected anyway. Only, my brother rang me when Ana Lucia had it off with Sawyer to say, "She's dead", then hung up. He rang again when Libby said she'd go and fetch blankets, and said, "She's dead", then hung up. So I wasn't surprised. On the whole, I'd say 'Mike did it on impulse' is probably right. He clearly had some kind of mission, but no definite plan formulated, and took the earliest opportunity that was presented to him. He may also have heard/seen Ana Lucia's earlier attempt to execute Henry, and thought he'd better do something quick before she strengthened her resolve.

09-07-2006, 01:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mantis Zero Sacrifice the Island demanded Survivor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: manchester Fave Character: Daniel Lost Item: Pens Posts: 679	What if Mike did it on impulse? Its unlikely Michael just decided to kill Ana on impulse, we know from his past behavior he is no killer (threatening to shoot the computer rather than Jack for example). He's not been brainwashed either and his reactions to shooting both Ana and especially Libby weren't those of a man who thought this was a good idea. I can only conclude hes on a mission from the others in return for Walt's safety (ie. They said they would harm Walt if he did not co-operate fully).

09-07-2006, 01:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hooting Heck Two Sides Survivor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 200	What if Mike did it on impulse? That last point was cobblers. If Michael had seen Ana Lucia's intent to shoot Henry, he'd have had to do something to stop her.

09-07-2006, 01:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
Hooting Heck Two Sides Survivor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 200	What if Mike did it on impulse? woops, Mantis, I was referring to MY last point.

09-07-2006, 01:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mantis Zero Sacrifice the Island demanded Survivor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: manchester Fave Character: Daniel Lost Item: Pens Posts: 679	What if Mike did it on impulse? lol no worries HH, you can actually use your edit function here by the way unlike C4's forums so if you post something and see a mistake you want to change or take out feel free!

09-07-2006, 01:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
Hooting Heck Two Sides Survivor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 200	What if Mike did it on impulse? Yes, I've used the edit function here, but it's like taking the best laughs away. We don' need no steenkeen edit.

09-07-2006, 01:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mantis Zero Sacrifice the Island demanded Survivor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: manchester Fave Character: Daniel Lost Item: Pens Posts: 679	What if Mike did it on impulse? Well I could always edit it for you j/k!

09-07-2006, 02:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
Hooting Heck Two Sides Survivor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 200	What if Mike did it on impulse? Nah, leave it. The correction is the same as an edit. Besides, didn't you ever hear of unconscious creation, Freudian slips, all that ? Meanwhile, back at the ranch... I blame Locke. If Locke had told Jack that Ana Lucia's head injury was because Henry tried to kill her, Jack would never have left Ana Lucia alone (apart from an unconscious Michael) in the Swan. "Jack, there's something I should tell you". He even admitted it!

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