What is Mike gonna do next?

[Kiowa Warrior]

Originally Posted by Pynch,September 05, 2006 05:36 pm

Maybe Walt has made his own list??

After being taken, he's been told what the Others are doing, and why they're doing it, and he's been taught about the good and bad people.....

and he misses his friend Locke - so he tells the Others they've got to have him on the list.....

Nice idea but I can't quite see it that way though, because I think Walt was distancing himself from Locke: when Locke was in the caves (just after Boone had died) he waved at Walt, but Walt didn't acknowledge the greeting and just walked on. And then Walt warned Locke 'not to open that thing,' and I think Walt grew even more distrusful of Locke because he didn't truly believe that Locke would listen to him.

I think that if Locke was on their list then he had been on it a while (like perhaps Walt himself was), and that the Others had plans for Locke ever since - or maybe even before - the crash.
But then again perhaps Walt thinks that Locke is his best chance of rescue, and has convinced the Others that Locke is the one they need? (Since Walt is important to the Others, they will grant some of his wishes).

But I don't think that last theory is very likely though!

[E Pluribus Unum]

I like the idea of another 'on-island' flashback for Mike. It does make you wonder though when the rest of them evetually find out 'what Mike did' what will happen. I can only see two options for him [as a character] -

death
Or!
joining the 'others'...

I actually wonder if maybe that was the deal he made. Fenry is pretty sure they won't give up Walt, so perhaps Mike wanted 'in' and the 'others' said you must do these things - kinda like some hardcore initiation lol!

[D-Roc]

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[Kielbasa]

Someone said earlier that we've seen pretty much all of Mike's pre-island story. I disagree. In Exodus when Walt overheard Mike's phone call to his mum, in the airport, Mike said something like "That wasn't part of the deal", referring to him having custody of Walt.

That's always intrigued me. At that point he seemed very reluctant to have Walt back, despite the earlier story when he was desperate for his wife (forgotten her name) and Walt to stay with him. So there's more to find out there methinks.

You're all putting up some good theories as to what Mike might do next, but of the threads I've read (not all of them admittedly) I haven't seen anyone question whether or not Jack, Locke et al will believe Mike's story.

I'm assuming Henry has been released in order for Mike to frame him, but our Losties would have to believe that Henry somehow got the gun, shot AL and Libby, but only wounded him (I'm again assuming Mike has only injured himself). It does seem a wee bit dodgy, I guess it depends on Jack's instinct, as the first idea that pops into his head seem to be the one he sticks to

[Mantis Zero]

I'm sure it wouldnt be a stretch for Locke and Jack to believe Henry overpowered Ana and took the gun off her (especially in light of Henry's attack on Ana that same morning) when she went in to kill him, which I'm pretty sure Locke implied Ana was going to do when he found out she had stolen Sawyer's gun.

[Murgatroyd]

Certainly it'd be more of a stretch for them to believe that Michael held any ill will towards them.

[Kielbasa]

True true, I daresay the Losties will believe him. I was just throwing it in there because it IS possible that someone will question Mike's relatively minor injury.

I reckon Mike has struck what he thinks is a deal with the others. Kill AL, give them Henry, then he gets Walt back. Gullible s*d.

You could plainly see he didn't want to kill AL, the kind hearted soul even apologised to her. It does look like shooting Libby was a mistake, definitely reactionary. You never quite know with Lost but I can't think of any reason why he would need to kill her. I do think he was telling the truth about the level of security/weaponry that the other have. He probably does want to slaughter them after he gets Walt back, after they've cornered him into being a murderer n all. But again, gullible as he is, he's almost certainly been conned by them, and will end up having more blood on his hands.

[lost-lover]

Yeah they'll probably say something like "why didn't he try and kill you" most likely he'll reply "His aim was bad and he left incase anyone arrived" or something along those lines. But the fact is, they won't want to believe that one of their own could do something like that, so they won't believe, and Mike knows that. Yeah it looked like he didn't want to kill Ana, and definatley not Libby, but i reckon he's not working for the others, but he wants to get walt back by going to war against the, and for that he needs the rest of the losties, so it was: bang bang, bye ana, bye libby, and then Mike'll say something like "Jack, ana went to henry with the gun but :sob: he overpowered her, i couldn't do anything, he - he shot her and :sob: ... he got l-libby too, then he saw me, jack and he s-shot at me too, but he only got my, my arm and he came towards me and i-i thought he was gonna kill me, but he just ran out, and he's gone, he's gone back to - back to THEM!" then lucky michael, onwards to battle they will go ... or so i believe

[Mantis Zero]

Originally Posted by lost-lover,September 07, 2006 02:28 pm

Yeah they'll probably say something like "why didn't he try and kill you" most likely he'll reply "His aim was bad and he left incase anyone arrived" or something along those lines. But the fact is, they won't want to believe that one of their own could do something like that, so they won't believe, and Mike knows that. Yeah it looked like he didn't want to kill Ana, and definatley not Libby, but i reckon he's not working for the others, but he wants to get walt back by going to war against the, and for that he needs the rest of the losties, so it was: bang bang, bye ana, bye libby, and then Mike'll say something like "Jack, ana went to henry with the gun but :sob: he overpowered her, i couldn't do anything, he - he shot her and :sob: ... he got l-libby too, then he saw me, jack and he s-shot at me too, but he only got my, my arm and he came towards me and i-i thought he was gonna kill me, but he just ran out, and he's gone, he's gone back to - back to THEM!" then lucky michael, onwards to battle they will go ... or so i believe

Surely murdering one of the potential soliders and an innocent bystander then releasing an enemy prisoner while shooting himself in the arm would slow down a potential war instead of speed up the process.

Jack was looking like he was ready to set off right away and now there will be the distractions of looking for Henry, tending to Mike's wound, burying Ana and Libby before anyone is going to go after the others.

I dont think Mike wants to go to war at all, especially now he's made it so he can only use one arm.

[lost-lover]

Originally Posted by Mantis Zero,September 07, 2006 03:58 pm

Surely murdering one of the potential soliders and an innocent bystander then releasing an enemy prisoner while shooting himself in the arm would slow down a potential war instead of speed up the process.

Jack was looking like he was ready to set off right away and now there will be the distractions of looking for Henry, tending to Mike's wound, burying Ana and Libby before anyone is going to go after the others.

I dont think Mike wants to go to war at all, especially now he's made it so he can only use one arm.

maybe so but they would have taken a long time to prepare for war let alone convince everyone else, i'll bet he'll dress mike's wound and then send a few people to look for henry, but they'll probably come back and assume he's gone to join the rest of the others, then ana and libby will get buried, then talk to people about war with the others, two dead at what they'll think was at the hands of an other will definatley anger people, and they'll be more willing to want to avenge the deaths, i think michael's in such a state of confusion he will go ahead even with one arm, locke'll probably go and he's on crutches. don't forget michael wasn't thinking ahead when he shot ana and libby and himself either, he might decide to wait after all, or the rest of the losties may want to grieve for a while and he'll do his "I must go alone" thing again and hope they'll catch up soon. sorry if i'm making no sense

[Mantis Zero]

Originally Posted by lost-lover,September 07, 2006 04:14 pm

maybe so but they would have taken a long time to prepare for war let alone convince everyone else, i'll bet he'll dress mike's wound and then send a few people to look for henry, but they'll probably come back and assume he's gone to join the rest of the others, then ana and libby will get buried, then talk to people about war with the others, two dead at what they'll think was at the hands of an other will definatley anger people, and they'll be more willing to want to avenge the deaths, i think michael's in such a state of confusion he will go ahead even with one arm, locke'll probably go and he's on crutches. don't forget michael wasn't thinking ahead when he shot ana and libby and himself either, he might decide to wait after all, or the rest of the losties may want to grieve for a while and he'll do his "I must go alone" thing again and hope they'll catch up soon. sorry if i'm making no sense

Well its not that yore not making sense, its just it doesnt fit with Michael's character to do something like that for such a vague reason. It must be linked with Walt and be direct orders from the others to make Mike resort to murder as from what we saw of him before its not the sort of thing he would do under any other circumstances than to protect somebody he cares about. His "I'm Sorry" to AL also implied that this wasnt his idea.

[lost-lover]

Yeah the "I'm sorry" is the only bit i can't fit into my theory, unless he was having second thoughts about his own plan, but that's too loose to properly work with his character, like you said...oh well

[D-Roc]

I remember back in S1 and even in the early part of S2 many people were saying that Mike's a boring character..guess they were wrong then :P

[Mrs Ferg]

i think Mike will lead them into a trap and that this was his ultimate objective. I believe that he was told to kill ana (because she had taken the life of 2 of the others) and that this would set the scene for Mike to whip up support for an army to fight the others. However, i think its a trap and when the losties confront the others they are out numbered both in man power and weapons. Mike has led them to believe they are nothing but savages so when they meet men in suits / modern man, they are surprised and sprung upon.

This is purely my theory of course.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Mrs Ferg,September 08, 2006 07:43 pm

i think Mike will lead them into a trap and that this was his ultimate objective. I believe that he was told to kill ana (because she had taken the life of 2 of the others) and that this would set the scene for Mike to whip up support for an army to fight the others. However, i think its a trap and when the losties confront the others they are out numbered both in man power and weapons. Mike has led them to believe they are nothing but savages so when they meet men in suits / modern man, they are surprised and sprung upon.

This is purely my theory of course.

Good theory Mrs Ferg..can't find much wrong with that myself. Though i do suspect that the others are afraid of the weapon power of the Losties. I would think that the losties have more weapons at their disposal that t