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harvey107
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04-02-2008, 05:32 PM
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This is a good read and brings up some good points, just on the last question WHY I think Sayid could be the most obvious due to him now being a hitman for Ben. Ben could have allowed sayid to leave to do what Ben needs to be done.
*Sorry I dont think I am allowed to post here! ![]() |
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D-Roc
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04-02-2008, 05:48 PM
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Cheers harvey (yup you're allowed to post here).
That's a good point - I was trying to think of a solid logical reasoning for Sayid being chosen to leave, and I think you may have nailed it - Ben plannig ahead.. It would fit his "I always have a plan" angle ![]() |
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Easily confused
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04-02-2008, 07:40 PM
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Well I am still not convinced that Sayid is one of the Oceanic 6 (I know he says he is but that doesn’t really mean very much does it) Jack, Hurley and Sun all appear to have returned to their previous lives as best they could whereas Sayid appears to have returned to the real world for a reason, to work for Ben. If Sayid has returned to work for Ben and the others haven’t then I would say he definitely isn’t one of the O6. If however Sayid is one of the O6 then I would say its Ben that chose who they are and would also say that Ben is the 6th person (pretending to be someone from flight 815)
Assuming that Sayid isn’t one of the O6 then I would guess a) it was up to the losties themselves to decide who returns which would probably mean that Claire died prior to the O6 leaving the island; or b) the O6 were the nearest people to the rescue mission and didn’t have time to make any choice other than be saved or not be saved and Kate happened to be looking after Aaron while Claire was having a swim or something |
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Easily confused
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04-03-2008, 08:40 AM
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Afterthought
there is also the chance the Oceanic 6 didn't actually all leave the island at the same time. |
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adamski999
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04-03-2008, 11:20 AM
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not really sure if we can count Aaron as one of the oceanic 6
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D-Roc
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04-03-2008, 05:31 PM
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In regards to the possibility of Ben pretending to be an 815'er and living life as a member of the Oceanic 6, wouldn't it make more sense for Sayid and not Ben to be one of the Oceanic 6? If we assume that Ben is one of the O6, then what does that make Sayid? The real world know that he's a survivor of 815, since the man he killed recognised his name. I don't see how Sayid working for Ben reduces his chances of being one of the O6? Also, who knows perhaps the others (Jack, Hurley etc) eventually go on to work for Ben..maybe the 'fishy-looking' Jack that we've seen in everyones flash-forwards is already working for Ben - and Ben's death (3.23) sends him over the edge because he knows that Ben was his key to one day getting back? Mere speculation of course, but i'd like think that the first pod of 8 episodes have revealed the O6 and that we can take it as canon. ![]() Quote:
Not sure about 'B' - I'm thinking that the Oceanic 6 go home 'soon', and currently they are all scattered about the island in random places. How they will all converge at the time of 'rescue' is difficult to see. This is partly why i'm not so sure they do get 'rescued', rather that Ben 'magic-boxes' 6 of them home. (although I sense some jest in your last point about Kate looking after Aaron whilst Claire is taking a swim ) |
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D-Roc
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04-03-2008, 05:37 PM
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I'm not sure we have much evidence to support the suggestion, but it's an interesting angle to consider. I do think that would needlessly bog-down the story-line if we have to have 'indivdual' stories/episodes of each one of the 6 leaving, however. I also think that this suggests that the O6 did all get off the island at the same time: (From Ji Yeon): Hurley: "Is anyone else coming?" Sun: "No" Hurley: "Gooood!" Hurley asking if anyone else is coming to Jin's eulogy suggests that he was referring to the rest of the O6 - since he wouldn't know Sun's family or friends in Korea, and had just flown from the States (presumably), to see her and the baby. I think little details like this tell us that they all left the island at the same time. Still, what yoou said is something to consider. |
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D-Roc
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04-03-2008, 05:41 PM
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He was on the flight when it crashed/went missing/landed. Surely he counts as a passenger (albeit a passenger within a passenger)? If not Aaron, then who else would be the 6th member? Assuming that most of the real world (media etc) didn't know that Michael (and Walt) had returned a couple of months earlier, I can only see Aaron as being that sixth member.. ![]() |
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Losty
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04-03-2008, 05:44 PM
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I think Claire's gonna be fine, I think she asked Kate to take Aaron, as noone was willing to stay on the island for Claire.
I don't know who chose them, if they were chosen at all. I just think it's about who got off the island and who didn't...couldn't or didn't want to leave. |
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charlierocks
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04-03-2008, 07:31 PM
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I think it must have been a choice between themselves. As it's common knowledge that Hurley can't keep secrets I don't think it would be anyone who doesn't want the truth to come out.
From the ones left, Sawyer, Locke, Rose(so Bernard too) and Ben wouldn't want to leave. I assume that something must happen to Claire as I can't see her giving up Aaron, unless the deal was he took the last place rather than her. I think Jin would put Sun first so sacrifice himself, he knows her Father can look after her and the baby. The only ones I have doubts about are Des and Juliet, as they both had someone to go back to so I can't see why they wouldn't want to leave. |
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04-04-2008, 04:28 PM
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Lets say for an example this man worked for Widemore would Widemore not want his people to be vigilant to who could possibly target them like someone working for Ben so therefore would have files and pictures to memorise of high profile people, as you would expect the O6 to be But basically there was something about Sayids flashes that stood out as being different to all the other O6 flashes that I just don’t trust |
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04-04-2008, 09:31 PM
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toosh
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04-05-2008, 09:08 PM
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Think Kate could have taken Aaron for her own gain,not sure how, but after her court hearing when she met jack,,he asked her to meet for coffee sometime and she said she could only do that when he had accepted the baby,maybe her reasons for having Aaron didnt sit too well with Jack so makes me think maybe at least in Jacks eyes all was not good there!!!!!
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KatesFate
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04-06-2008, 05:48 AM
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If her reasons for having Aaron didn't sit well with Jack, why would he even bother asking her out? You would think that he would be pretty upset with her. I know how much Kate is hated, but I don't seriously think she would have taken that baby for her own gain. Especially since she was the one who wouldn't let her lawyer use him in court.
From what I've seen of the previews for epi 9, I think Hurley might of been watching Aaron for Claire when the freighties showed up and started killing people. Maybe he was able to escape with the baby and catch up to Jack and gang to eventually leave the island with them. Also, who's to say that Juliet and Des don't get off of the island. They may be off of the island and just not considered a part of the Oceanic 6. Although, I imagine Des would be pretty famous for his own reasons. Juliet too for that matter. What I want to know is when Ben is finally going to tell Jack that Claire is is half-sister. You know damn well he knows and is waiting for just the right time to hit Jack with the info. |
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