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Old 08-22-2006, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So the purpose of the lockdown may well be so the guys don't run out and find out how the food delivery works.

However we had a beach full of people only 4 miles away, the wheather was lovely, only the gentle sound of the waves against the beach. Which by now they won't actually hear anymore.

So how come noone heard or saw anything?

A parachute takes some time to fall from the sky. A plane would make some noise.

How are Dharma doing it. Miracle? Like the Polar Bears? And the parachute is merely a decoy?
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I do find this whole aspect very interesting..not least because i havent really had time to properly consider it.

So..let me just see if ive got this right. The smilie face balloon was 'Henry's', yes? he unhooked the food supplies from the the balloon so that it would parachut down to earth in the region of the hatch?..he then tried to land the balloon..and as we know "air travel is different" from other forms of travel therefore he met with some difficulty and ended up crashing the balloon into another part of the island at least 2 days away by foot? ..At which point he met with the real Henry Gale, stole his identity and sunsequently got sneered by Danielle's trap? and the rest as they say is..


So what im baffled about is who the hecky pect is the real Henry Gale? How was he on the island? Or have a misconstrued this aspect? Like i said, i really need to go over this part of proceedings as im sure ive got the wrong end of the stick somewhere...
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I thought that the real henry gale crashed in the balloon on the island, and fake henry came and killed him and stole his identity
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I do find this whole aspect very interesting..not least because i havent really had time to properly consider it.

So..let me just see if ive got this right. The smilie face balloon was 'Henry's', yes? he unhooked the food supplies from the the balloon so that it would parachut down to earth in the region of the hatch?..he then tried to land the balloon..and as we know "air travel is different" from other forms of travel therefore he met with some difficulty and ended up crashing the balloon into another part of the island at least 2 days away by foot? ..At which point he met with the real Henry Gale, stole his identity and sunsequently got sneered by Danielle's trap? and the rest as they say is..


So what im baffled about is who the hecky pect is the real Henry Gale? How was he on the island? Or have a misconstrued this aspect? Like i said, i really need to go over this part of proceedings as im sure ive got the wrong end of the stick somewhere...
Ermm. Sorry? Not with you there at all.

How did you get Henry and the food drop linked up?

The real Henry Gale (R.I.P.) came in that baloon. The fake Henry Gale took his indentity as a convenient alibi. All of these events are weeks if not months old. Well, at least the baloon crashing must have happened before flight 815 cause otherwise we would have seen that (or the survivors would).

The food drop on the other hand was recent. Otherwise those there cardboard boxes would be soaking wet with all that rain, and you wouldn't need milk with your cornflakes

Thats my take on it anyway.
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So, noone is even remotely fascinated by this question then?

Look at all the food that was actually on it. It looked so much bigger in daylight (Dave) then at night (Lockedown).

How does this invisibility thing work on this island? According to Henry god can't see the island, every vessel we have encountered so far we encountered as a wreck. Yet someone can land a parachute with reasonable accuracy without crashing.
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ok, so "Henry" killed the real Henry, buried him and took on his identity, but how did he know so much about the real Henry? Am i forgetting something? But i thought Sayid found the letter on the real Henry so the fake could not have seen it less he would have destroyed it. Help!
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Am I misssing something here? What does Henry have to do with the parachute drop?

How did they do the bleeding parachute drop without a plane or anything seen or heard?
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I thought that the real henry gale crashed in the balloon on the island, and fake henry came and killed him and stole his identity
But what would he [real HG] be doing with Dharma food? ..and if thats the case then who is our Henry? Does this mean the real HG was Dharma/balloon man and our henry is Hanso affiliated and killed real HG because he's Dharma??

This is so confusing but personally i still reckon that our HG is Dharma and was the one flying the balloon.. ..but then who's the real HG? ..hmm, back at square one, lol
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I do find this whole aspect very interesting..not least because i havent really had time to properly consider it.

So..let me just see if ive got this right. The smilie face balloon was 'Henry's', yes? he unhooked the food supplies from the the balloon so that it would parachut down to earth in the region of the hatch?..he then tried to land the balloon..and as we know "air travel is different" from other forms of travel therefore he met with some difficulty and ended up crashing the balloon into another part of the island at least 2 days away by foot? ..At which point he met with the real Henry Gale, stole his identity and sunsequently got sneered by Danielle's trap? and the rest as they say is..


So what im baffled about is who the hecky pect is the real Henry Gale? How was he on the island? Or have a misconstrued this aspect? Like i said, i really need to go over this part of proceedings as im sure ive got the wrong end of the stick somewhere...
Ermm. Sorry? Not with you there at all.

How did you get Henry and the food drop linked up?

The real Henry Gale (R.I.P.) came in that baloon. The fake Henry Gale took his indentity as a convenient alibi. All of these events are weeks if not months old. Well, at least the baloon crashing must have happened before flight 815 cause otherwise we would have seen that (or the survivors would).

The food drop on the other hand was recent. Otherwise those there cardboard boxes would be soaking wet with all that rain, and you wouldn't need milk with your cornflakes

Thats my take on it anyway.
So youre suggesting that the food drop and the balloon are seperate? It seems a bit convenient but i suppose it could work.

No, but thinkning about it wasnt it incinuated that our Henry dropped the food..therefore that would mean that he must surely have done it via the balloon...
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So, noone is even remotely fascinated by this question then?

Look at all the food that was actually on it. It looked so much bigger in daylight (Dave) then at night (Lockedown).

How does this invisibility thing work on this island? According to Henry god can't see the island, every vessel we have encountered so far we encountered as a wreck. Yet someone can land a parachute with reasonable accuracy without crashing.
But im not sure whether Henry meant that the island was literally 'invisible'.. perhaps he meant that the island is not a place that adovcates faith or values faith..over say, science? [hence, God cant see it]. Or he may have meant that the island cannot be detected via satellites?
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ok, so "Henry" killed the real Henry, buried him and took on his identity, but how did he know so much about the real Henry? Am i forgetting something? But i thought Sayid found the letter on the real Henry so the fake could not have seen it less he would have destroyed it. Help!
He didnt know the real HG that well..i think this is why he kept saying "Im Henry Gale, im from Minnesota" in such a repetitive fashion..as if he was also trying to remind or convince himself of his cover story..? also our fake HG knew the real HG's name and city because he saw his drivers license..but he didnt realise or consider that the real HG had writen a note on some money..and so he couldnt destroy it because he didnt know about it and probably thought no-one would dig him up anyway

Thats what i think anyway, lol
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Am I misssing something here? What does Henry have to do with the parachute drop?

How did they do the bleeding parachute drop without a plane or anything seen or heard?
He [the fake HG] used the balloon didnt he?..thats how i perceive it at the moment. The fake Henry Gale flew the balloon to the island and the released the food once he was approximately above the right location [ie the swan hatch] but then he struggled to land it and crashed in another part of the island and met the real HG, who may have been another other or perhaps a hanso agent..or maybe he was just some random castaway?

i need to think this one through though so dont hold me to it
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I'm with Hundredand8 on this one. I don't see an obvious link that suggests that 'our' Henry came in a balloon or is directly related to the food drop. Sayid found the note from the real Henry Gale in his wallet to his girlfriend (Veronica??) saying his balloon had crashed. I think the real HG came in the balloon but maybe I'm taking it too much at face value.

Also, the food drop was to provide the hatch with more food so that whoever happened to be on 'button duty' could continue in that role. So that the button continues to be pressed. If Henry is telling the truth and he didn't put in the numbers it seems he isn't on the whole hatch/button wavelength so why would he be linked to the food drop to enable that to keep happening?

I'm not articulating this very well I felt that 'our' Henry had been on the Island a while. And I'm not sure how long the real HG has been buried for (get Jack out there pronto for a quick autopsy!). But all in, I'm not seeing a direct link between the henrys and the food drop.
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:hairpull: Too many speculations! I agree with both 108 and KoRevo in some ways. When you read them thru, both are possible, i, like thousands of others, just can't get my head around all the facts and possibilities there is, i think this is making my brain turn to mush......
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Ok. Good! Discussion at last

I thought this won't happen because most of you guys are discussing the E4 eppy by now and my obsession with this is soooo last week.

What I'm quite sure about is that Henry and "Henry" have nothing to do with it.

Evidence:

1) Henrys note to his wife "crossing the pacific is as difficult as you thought" (not correct words, but true in spirit). He's been doing a Richard Branson. You would not write that if your employers had sent you on a routine food delivery.

2) "Henry" has been in captivity for several days, which means Henry has been dead for the same amount of time. Yet the cardboard boxes are dry. It rains a lot in the island. So the food drop really happened DURING Lockdown.

3) Its more than likely Henry has been dead for more than 60 days, because at least some of the survivors of flight 815 would have seen him.

What I haven't got the first clue about is how this food delivery happened.
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