Is Henry testing Locke?

[Hooting Heck]

I don't think the Swan hatch is a psychology experiment; but if it was, Locke fully accepted the need to keep entering the numbers right from the start. So maybe 'Henry Gale' has gone in there just to make Locke think about what he's doing? Otherwise, there's no experiement.

All HG's lying is just to make it clear that you can't take his word for anything. This forces Locke to figure things out for himself, instead of reacting to what other people say.

I figure that's why HG was smiling to himself when Locke was demanding an answer, pleased that Locke was seriously doubting the need to keep entering the numbers.

Or HG is just nasty.

[Hooting Heck]

Topic should have read, "because Locke has settled into a button-pressing routine too easily?"

Don't know where the rest of the sentence went!

[D-Roc]

I think you have a point in so much as HG is trying to get inside Lockes head and make him question things again. Henry Gale is a very curious man - a hallmark of a scientist..and it does seem to me as if he's trying to make Locke realise that he has to open his eye's again and begin to question things once more rather than having TOO much blind faith.

[hundredand8]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,Aug 30 2006, 8:34 AM

I think you have a point in so much as HG is trying to get inside Lockes head and make him question things again. Henry Gale is a very curious man - a hallmark of a scientist..and it does seem to me as if he's trying to make Locke realise that he has to open his eye's again and begin to question things once more rather than having TOO much blind faith.

But when Rose reminded him of the islands healing powers, he got is mental energy back to draw the fluorescent wall. Looks like Locke needs science and faith to function properly.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by hundredand8,Aug 30 2006, 17:49 PM

But when Rose reminded him of the islands healing powers, he got is mental energy back to draw the fluorescent wall. Looks like Locke needs science and faith to function properly.

Precisely..i agree with you 100% in that..he needs a balance..light and dark..science and faith..hence his one light eye and one dark eye in Claire's 'Raised by Another' dream. Ultimately [i believe] Locke is a dualist...he's a man of faith..faith in science It's only this way that he can see "the bigger picture" imo.

[D-Roc]

Also, theres a difference between having faith and having blind faith..[i feel that] Locke needs to remember that he has a choice in all of this. He's not a slave to the button..rather, the button is his stepping stone... [or at least it should be, imo]

[lost-lover]

Originally Posted by Hooting Heck,Aug 30 2006, 1:48 AM

I don't think the Swan hatch is a psychology experiment.

If you remember back to the orientation video there were six hatches and six seperate things which dharma and hanso were studying, i think the sawn hatch is the study of electro-magnetism (purely because of that metal wall we saw when jack first entered, remember what it did to his key?)
But anyway back to the topic, Henry. He's got to be testing Locke, he was smirking his head off when Locke was screaming "Did you press the button, i have to know!" through the armory door to him. I don't think he was caught by Rosseau on purpose but i still think whatever his "leader" (the "Him" he mentioned) sent him to do involved Locke in one way or another

[Hooting Heck]

I think Locke IS a man of faith. He needs to act on his gut feeling - not in itself a bad thing (in fact, a very good thing).

But if he has no gut feeling, or if it is significantly undermined, he loses all resolution and cannot cope with uncertainty.

And coping with UN-certainty, that is the great strength of science and the weakness of faith.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Hooting Heck,Aug 31 2006, 1:13 AM

I think Locke IS a man of faith. He needs to act on his gut feeling - not in itself a bad thing (in fact, a very good thing).

But if he has no gut feeling, or if it is significantly undermined, he loses all resolution and cannot cope with uncertainty.

And coping with UN-certainty, that is the great strength of science and the weakness of faith.

I agree that Locke is a man of faith..i just dont think this is all he is. On many occassions throught this journey he has mentioned the value and his belief in other support systems such a 'luck', superstition and given reference to the value of science and seeing the bigger picture etc. All of this i feel illustrates Lockes multi-dimentional belief system. He also said it himself - "I believe in many things" [when talking to Claire in 'Numbers']. Whatsmore at the crux of Locke..and the thing i think that makes him so appealing, is the fact hat he's a normal man..an "ordinary man" in his own words.

I agree with you about Lokce using his 'gut' or instinct..particularly in the early days..when he was chasing boars, predicting the rain and uncovering hatches..i feel that his gut was a key component.

Just as a side note, i personally find it so intrigiung that Locke, who's legs have been presumably 'fixed' [or healed] by the Dharma/Hanso's science, using the islands properties. So technically Locke has shown faith..but faith in science [imo]. Thats quite a thought really since science and faith are often at such disperate ends of the spectrum in common perception.