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Old 05-10-2007, 09:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well because people shot me to pieces for doing so back in the day, hence why should they then be allowed to do it in Sawyers favour? All I ask is for fairness Murgs'.
I see... you think it's wrong, but you get to do it in turn because it was done to you? In the context of this debate, isn't that kind of ironic?

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Also, theres another difference..Sawyers action was selfish and only benefitted himself..Locke knew his role in it could benefit both of them..remember until he read the file, lcoke was against bringing Ford anywhere.

Thats the thing about Ford..he is one selfish person *Hisss*
As I see it, the difference works in quite the opposite direction. Sawyer's crime was carelessness, not malignancy: he had no idea that Ana Lucia was plotting a murder and didn't act to bring one about. Both Ben and Locke did *precisely* that, which is why I consider them infinitely more culpable for Cooper's death than Sawyer could ever be considered for Ana Lucia and Libby's death. Both intended Cooper to die.

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Lockes morals are intact imo. Lets not forget the damage that Cooper did to Locke - perhaps more damage than he has done to Sawyer. Locke didnt force Sawyer to execute the man..Locke merely felt it Sawyers right to know..freewill and all that. Afterall, who is Locke to not tell Ford? Of course Locke knew he'd get something out of it aswell, but then the buck has to stop with the person who chose to execute. Ironic how the only executing Locke can bring himself to do is pushing the button..what a guy..what a great guy!
Same result. Locke wanted Cooper dead so he could follow Ben's trail, and he found a way to make it happen. At the very least, he's an accessory to a murder. And yes, Cooper did a lot of damage to Locke, but apparently not enough to drive him to a crime of passion. He went for a crime of callous calculation instead. I don't find that tremendously endearing myself.

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As for blaming ben..i dont see it..sorry Murg, but how can you blame Ben when you were/are so against blaming Sawyer for Ana's death? Is it bias? (hey, just askingg)
Because Sawyer, for all his carelessness, didn't want Ana dead. Ben did want Cooper dead and acted with a view to bringing that about. Surely you can see the difference.
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