Soft metal into steel - Christians plan working?

[D-Roc]

Ive been hard on you because i want the best for you. It's like changing soft metal into steel [or something like that] were Chrstian's words to Jack in 1.11 flashback.

Now..i kinda think that Christian's early efforts to make Jack more 'detached' are finally starting to pay off because when you compare the blubbering and distraut Jack when he thought Charlie had died in 1.15 and when he lost Boone in 1.20 to the dry eyed and slightly sad Jack when he realised that 2 of his people were dead in 2.21..it's a stark contrast imo.

Especially when you consider that Jack and Ana had this 'thing' going on it begs the question as to whether Jack has finally found the ability to 'let go' easier now Â*Â*Has all the lives that have slipped through his fingers finally made him less effected by grief and loss?

You know..in a funny kinda way i think i actually prefer the needy/cant 'let go' Jack..he was so much more..human.

[Sawyer_Rocks]

Jack is a power-crazed maniac on a 3 month ego trip. And he's emotionless.
END OF.

[E Pluribus Unum]

lol I agree KoR. I think it was also obvious just after Libby had .......gone. When he was in the room with his medical stuff. He was more focused than we're used to seeing. Usually he would break down into a mess [although why an emotional man who gets upset when people die/his wife leaves him - gets so much stick is a conundrum to me] I'm a bloke by the way

But yes...I agree. I also wonder if it's because he's 'the leader'. Remember for 30+ amount of years he's lived behind his father. He's always been judged by him, even if he was a 'better doctor' than Chris....

Now of course, you might see Jack as the dominant in his relationship with Locke, who he is now judging etc

[Audio Pineapple]

If I think about this, I'm seeing it as Jack's natural progression into Christian. He's becomming detatched, tough, emotionless.

Which proves that even though his father is 'dead' he hasn't escaped his grasp.

[StoneRose]

Maybe its just that Jack is actually gettin used to people around him dying. As horrible as it sounds think back to his little sppech to Sayid in 3 minutes when he said something along the lines of ' I was supossed to be burying my father, now here we are again'.

Implying that he has had to bury and attend a number of funerals in such a short space of time he's kinda getting used to it now.

[IM-LOST-WITH-LOST]

thats interesting stonerose!! and heya btw!!! its ILWL from SF, and your beating me in posts

[StoneRose]

Originally Posted by IM-LOST-WITH-LOST,September 22, 2006 12:20 pm

thats interesting stonerose!! and heya btw!!! its ILWL from SF, and your beating me in posts

Hi ILWL

How you been, its been a while since I ventured back over to 'the dark side '

Good to see you over here!!!!

[IM-LOST-WITH-LOST]

yeah well, im tryna skip back and too but my other home is dieing but this site is really good!! im just tryna figure out how to get pictures in my sig and how to get a picture in my avitar... whenver i try to upload one to my avatar it says error

[StoneRose]

Originally Posted by IM-LOST-WITH-LOST,September 22, 2006 01:46 pm

yeah well, im tryna skip back and too but my other home is dieing but this site is really good!! im just tryna figure out how to get pictures in my sig and how to get a picture in my avitar... whenver i try to upload one to my avatar it says error

Yeah I tried going to both but it was just too dead over there so I sty here full time now. Takes a bit of getting used to mind.

Wish I could help but i'm a real technophob, some kind soul designed my sig for me and told me how to put it up, there really very nice over here.

Go to the ask an administrator thread, Rocco or Ki will help you with ay probs you might be having.

[IM-LOST-WITH-LOST]

ki as in kitiara?? i never knew she had joined full time ok thanks stoney nice speaking to you again

[StoneRose]

Originally Posted by IM-LOST-WITH-LOST,September 22, 2006 01:55 pm

ki as in kitiara?? i never knew she had joined full time ok thanks stoney nice speaking to you again

No, Kiowa Warrior. I've not seen Kitiara on here actually.

Yeah Nice speaking to you again ILWL (damn I never did come up with a nickname for you did I!!!)

We always manage to go sooo off topic dont we!!!

Good luck with the whole picture thing

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by E PLURIBUS UNUM,September 21, 2006 10:15 pm

lol I agree KoR. I think it was also obvious just after Libby had .......gone. When he was in the room with his medical stuff. He was more focused than we're used to seeing. Usually he would break down into a mess [although why an emotional man who gets upset when people die/his wife leaves him - gets so much stick is a conundrum to me] I'm a bloke by the way 

But yes...I agree. I also wonder if it's because he's 'the leader'. Remember for 30+ amount of years he's lived behind his father. He's always been judged by him, even if he was a 'better doctor' than Chris....

Now of course, you might see Jack as the dominant in his relationship with Locke, who he is now judging etc

Yeah..a son stepping out of his father shadow. Looks like he may have stopped chasing that allusive white rabbit..

I havent felt the need to criticise Jack for a few weeks now..i guess he's growing on me a bit :P Although I dont like how rude he is to Eko, though to be honest Eko can handle himself and isnt very reciprocal to Jack himself

I still reckon that Christian is alive and well and that he is involved with the HF or Others somehow.. ..I reckon that The Others now want to groom Jack.. He's changed and perhaps theyve noticed that change in him? Maybe they think he'll proove vital to their cause ..whatever that might be..

Hmm, just a thought..but perhaps they need Jack because they need a proper Doctor..someone with real medical knowledge. Isnt there a thread somewhere which suggests that the Others dont have genuine medical experience? Well say we go along with that..perhaps this is where Jack becomes vital to them.. Of course this is only a theory based on another theory..so it's propably well wrong

[St. Anger]

Jack! Jack! Jack! Jack! Jack!

[D-Roc]

Hehe St Anger :P ..i must say though Jack has impressed me of late [on the whole]. Or perhaps it's just because others have fallen so drastically..

[St. Anger]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,September 25, 2006 04:10 pm

Hehe St Anger :P ..i must say though Jack has impressed me of late [on the whole]. Or perhaps it's just because others have fallen so drastically..

All the characters are cool in their own way and contribute to the show's awesomess but Jack is without a doubt the main character that has been the glue of the show.


I'm not sure why so many find Jack and Kate annoying. I've always liked them.