My Plea to Alex/Rousseau is no better than Ben!

[D-Roc]

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Dear Alexandra Linus-Rousseau,

I know you're going through a tough time right now..the world around you is chaging, the things you thought were constant, seem so moveable.

But as I write this letter to you I emplore you to not shut Ben, your father, out of your life. Sure, he's made some mistakes and he done some things. But who hasn't done some things? Everything he has done has been in your best interests, Ally. It may not seem like it but he is always thinking about what is right for his little girl. I know you're gorwing up and need to live you're own life and make your own choices, but don't let the incident with Karl blur your appreciation of Ben. he was only doing what any decent father would do in his situation..infact many fathers would do alot worse if their daughters life was at stake.

Which brings me to Rousseau. Ally, please don't be fooled by her, for she is no better than Ben (not by a long shot). What kind of mother sets deadly traps, blows people up, tortures people on racks, tells people the 'Others' are coming when really they're not, kidnaps wee babies from their terrified mothers..

SEE..she is nothing but a hypocrite, Alex. I have no doubt that she cares for you, but how much can you trust her? Why don't you ask her what happened to your biological father, Robert..and his team? Ask her Alex, go on..

This is my plea to you..judge Ben not for what he has done..but for the intentions behind his sacfrices..

All the best,

A Friend of Ben's x

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[Verix]

Dear Alex Rousseau

Though your father (a indeed his friend() are eloquent in their arguments and apparantly only acting in your best intentions i would ask you to think carefully about how you proceed to act in the future.

Although you may feel affection for your 'father' i would remind you of the circumstances in which this man became your 'father'. As a child you were kidnapped from your mother... in any siuation a deplorable act. You, Alex, were saved, a seemingly noble act. But in this act your mothers life was ruined beyond in a way that no person's life should be. The idea that her traps are unnecissary is laughable considering her only interaction with your father people was hugely hostile on your father's part.

As for Ben's parenting skills. As you have experienced first hand Ben has made bad decision after bad decision involving your life. From trying to brainwash the love of your life to truting your life in the hans of a volaile Locke who had both a gun and explosives to hand. Of course forcing you to take part in a kidnapping plan (of Michael) at the ender age of sixteen when you were clearly not comfortable with the situation.

You have stood up wonderfully, Alex, against Ben's terrible decisions both as a parent and as a leader. I think having the power and nerve to set Claire free and secue her life was a moment that you should be immensly proud of.

In comparrison your mother's 'crimes' have only been of a reltaliative nature, a response against the soul destroying kidnapping of her one and only child.

Should you follow Ben, should you give him a second chance? No... not on your nelly!

Yours
A friendly observer.

[The Wizard]

Originally Posted by KoR-evo

tells people the 'Others' are coming when really they're not

Except actually they were

[b-r-a-d]

i dont think she should shut ben out her life completly but what you said about Roussaue was just stupid lol! She was just doing anything she could to stay alive when there were a group of people out there that have just kidnapped her baby! Doing anything she could to get her baby back, like Ben done everything he could to save her life! They have both done bad things for her but you cant say what Ben done was good and what Roussaue done was bad LOL!

[Murgatroyd]

What kind of mother... kidnaps wee babies from their terrified mothers..

That just overloaded my irony detector.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Verix

Dear Alex Rousseau

Though your father (a indeed his friend() are eloquent in their arguments and apparantly only acting in your best intentions i would ask you to think carefully about how you proceed to act in the future.

Although you may feel affection for your 'father' i would remind you of the circumstances in which this man became your 'father'. As a child you were kidnapped from your mother... in any siuation a deplorable act. You, Alex, were saved, a seemingly noble act. But in this act your mothers life was ruined beyond in a way that no person's life should be. The idea that her traps are unnecissary is laughable considering her only interaction with your father people was hugely hostile on your father's part.

As for Ben's parenting skills. As you have experienced first hand Ben has made bad decision after bad decision involving your life. From trying to brainwash the love of your life to truting your life in the hans of a volaile Locke who had both a gun and explosives to hand. Of course forcing you to take part in a kidnapping plan (of Michael) at the ender age of sixteen when you were clearly not comfortable with the situation.

You have stood up wonderfully, Alex, against Ben's terrible decisions both as a parent and as a leader. I think having the power and nerve to set Claire free and secue her life was a moment that you should be immensly proud of.

In comparrison your mother's 'crimes' have only been of a reltaliative nature, a response against the soul destroying kidnapping of her one and only child.

Should you follow Ben, should you give him a second chance? No... not on your nelly!

Yours
A friendly observer.

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Dear Alexandra Linus,

In spite of the recent attempts to sway your better judgement, I ask you to hold firm and look at the facts.

Who would you rather trust, a man who has lead the free world to salvation for the best part of 15 years, or a woman who you know barely anything about. Yes, there is irony in the fact that many people judged your people negatively on the very basis that they knew little about you.

Alex, these are now the same people who wish to win your favour - do not be swayed, do not be moved. Yes, Ben is not in your good books right now, but there pages are there to be written..close not your heart.

It was difficult for him to let you in on all of his motives, because he wanted to protect you - he saw what happened to his beloved mother - your grandma - and he got scared. Yes, even Ben has fear.

Ally, please place your trust..your love in this great man..this leader of leaders. He is not perfect, but then no man is..no other man has the burdens that he has resting upon his weary shoulders.

You have grown into a fine young woman..a woman with morals and principles..who do you think instilled that into you, Alex? Why it was Ben..he wants the best for you.

As for Danielle..well im sure she had her reasons for massacring her entire sqaud..but that's something you will need to address before you leap into her arms.

All the best,

Uncle Roco x

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Originally Posted by The Wizard

Except actually they were

Not the first time Wiz!

How could you forget:

"RUN..HIDE..OR DIE"

..another great lie from the forest keeper[hr]

Originally Posted by b-r-a-d

i dont think she should shut ben out her life completly but what you said about Roussaue was just stupid lol! She was just doing anything she could to stay alive when there were a group of people out there that have just kidnapped her baby! Doing anything she could to get her baby back, like Ben done everything he could to save her life! They have both done bad things for her but you cant say what Ben done was good and what Roussaue done was bad LOL!

I'll ignore the "stupid" comment which you directed at me (though my irony detector is a buzzing)

Yes, you're quite right brad..she was just doing what she had to do. HOWEVER, I wont be taken in by her 'version' of events. It strikes me as dubious that we have not yet seen what actually happened to the likes of Robert, Montan, Brandon and co..

Are you saying it's beyond that womans capablity to lie through what little teeth she has left?

All im saying is that we know Ben's deal..and his actions are understandable (once we get past the anti-Other perception)..Danielle on the other-hand..well..she' far more dubious.

I'll back this up im sure, come S4

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Murgatroyd

That just overloaded my irony detector.

However, I made that comment in reference to her hypocrisy

We know Ben's deal..what's Rousseau's excuse??

[Murgatroyd]

Originally Posted by KoR-evo

However, I made that comment in reference to her hypocrisy

We know Ben's deal..

Do we? Do we really know why he kidnapped Alex? If it's 'Because the Others can't have kids of their own', is that even vaguely okay?

what's Rousseau's excuse??

Um... maybe that being stuck alone on a freaky island for 16 years and having her baby stolen from her sent her ever so slightly over the edge?

[Murgatroyd]

Originally Posted by Kor-evo

Yes, there is irony in the fact that many people judged your people negatively on the very basis that they knew little about you.

As I said at length in a post that I know you've read... er, no. Only I've said it in a slightly less convoluted way just there. I agree that many people judged the Others negatively on Rousseau's statement that they were dangerous people only at the very beginning. After that, they judged them negatively on the grounds that they'd infiltrated their group, stolen a pregnant woman, made threats of murder, killed Nathan, kidnapped and tortured Jack and co, blah blah etc. Which I think is fair enough. I don't see the point in ignoring all those events... it would've made a more interesting psychological narrative had the producers chosen to pursue the line you suggest, but we can't make it so by wishing it. What you say there hasn't been true for a very long time indeed.

[Murgatroyd]

And another thing!

Originally Posted by KoR-evo

You have grown into a fine young woman..a woman with morals and principles

Last I heard from you on the subject, 'Alex is a wretch'... what changed?

[esn]

*Rolls shoulders back, loosens neck and gets ready to come out fighting at the bell*

*Bell rings and esn comes out punching, not caring if he gets knocked out, just so long as he unleashes his enternal beast, however powerful that may be*

Originally Posted by KoR-evo

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Dear Alexandra Linus-Rousseau,

I know you're going through a tough time right now..the world around you is chaging, the things you thought were constant, seem so moveable.

But as I write this letter to you I emplore you to not shut Ben, your father, out of your life. Sure, he's made some mistakes and he done some things. But who hasn't done some things? Everything he has done has been in your best interests, Ally. It may not seem like it but he is always thinking about what is right for his little girl. I know you're gorwing up and need to live you're own life and make your own choices, but don't let the incident with Karl blur your appreciation of Ben. he was only doing what any decent father would do in his situation..infact many fathers would do alot worse if their daughters life was at stake.

In her best interests eh? So taking her from her real mothers arms when she was just one week (I think) and having her growing up not knowing who she really is and treating her like a second class citizen
and a man servant is doing stuff in her best interests is it? It is also debatable weather or not Ben is actually Alexs real Dad so what right did he have to take Alex in the first place. And has for doing what any decent father would do Most 'decent' Dads I know of might at worse be a bit rough with the guy but generally speaking locking up the kid and then subjecting him to goodness knows what in room 23 (im not convinced he was being brianwashed) isnt any humanitrians idea of what decent is. Decent is when you have a harsh but fair words in the tykes ear, maybe arrange for some safe sex classes, some condoms perhaps. Or even earlier on, some proper education, acutally treat her like a daughter not some scamp he picked up off the street might help.

Which brings me to Rousseau. Ally, please don't be fooled by her, for she is no better than Ben (not by a long shot). What kind of mother sets deadly traps, blows people up, tortures people on racks, tells people the 'Others' are coming when really they're not, kidnaps wee babies from their terrified mothers..

The type of person whose only child, their only ray of light was snatched from them just one week after giving birth. The type of person who has (maybe I admitt that) had to see her entire crew suffer from an terrible disease, who out of no real choice of her own (again just speculation I do admitt) has had to execute them to save them from any suffering. The type of person who has been alone for 16 years, having to learn how to survive, how to hunt for food on an island that 24/7/365 is forught with danger . The type of person who after 16 years just wants to love and care for her somone - her child again and will do anything to get her back.

SEE..she is nothing but a hypocrite, Alex. I have no doubt that she cares for you, but how much can you trust her? Why don't you ask her what happened to your biological father, Robert..and his team? Ask her Alex, go on..

This is my plea to you..judge Ben not for what he has done..but for the intentions behind his sacfrices..

All the best,

A Friend of Ben's x

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So you admitt that Ben isnt her father, and therefore had no business taking, Alex. Nor does he have any business in her future - even he can see that so why cant you Roco? Is it not right that above all else that a child would want to be with her mother and help her come to terms with what she has been through? Now I admitt that Rouseu isnt exactly the moral high ground, but after what shes been through she has more of an - well I dont want to say excuse because there isnt one so Ill just say 'thingy' - to be like that than anyone else. But compared to Ben she is a step in the right direction.
One last question to you Roco - would you be so stable as Rouseu after what she as gone through?

[Verix]

Originally Posted by KoR-evo

Dear Alexandra Linus,

In spite of the recent attempts to sway your better judgement, I ask you to hold firm and look at the facts.

Who would you rather trust, a man who has lead the free world to salvation for the best part of 15 years, or a woman who you know barely anything about. Yes, there is irony in the fact that many people judged your people negatively on the very basis that they knew little about you.

Alex, these are now the same people who wish to win your favour - do not be swayed, do not be moved. Yes, Ben is not in your good books right now, but there pages are there to be written..close not your heart.

It was difficult for him to let you in on all of his motives, because he wanted to protect you - he saw what happened to his beloved mother - your grandma - and he got scared. Yes, even Ben has fear.

Ally, please place your trust..your love in this great man..this leader of leaders. He is not perfect, but then no man is..no other man has the burdens that he has resting upon his weary shoulders.

You have grown into a fine young woman..a woman with morals and principles..who do you think instilled that into you, Alex? Why it was Ben..he wants the best for you.

As for Danielle..well im sure she had her reasons for massacring her entire sqaud..but that's something you will need to address before you leap into her arms.

All the best,

Uncle Roco x

As quirky as it would be to have a letter off i don't think i can bring myself to :P

But seriously, leader of the free world for fifteen years? Some leader! What has he achieved? In fact it would appear that under Ben's rule this whole infertility thing has come about and he has attacked a group of people resulting in them retaliating with devestating effects on his group! From where i'm standing he's been a fairly poor leader!

Originally Posted by KoR-evo

Except actually they were

Not the first time Wiz!

How could you forget:

"RUN..HIDE..OR DIE"

..another great lie from the forest keeper

errrm sorry? They came Roco? Remember? That merry incident of the child kidnapping? Yeah you remember that? On the boat, with Walt? Sure you do.

That was no lie she told... she saw the smoke and came toward the group to warn them. Once there however the whole idea of getting Alex back by giving them Aaron (or so she thought) took over. Her actions can be (imo) defended because she probably is a little mentally worst for wear.

Originally Posted by KoR-evo

I'll ignore the "stupid" comment which you directed at me (though my irony detector is a buzzing)

Yes, you're quite right brad..she was just doing what she had to do. HOWEVER, I wont be taken in by her 'version' of events. It strikes me as dubious that we have not yet seen what actually happened to the likes of Robert, Montan, Brandon and co..

Are you saying it's beyond that womans capablity to lie through what little teeth she has left?

All im saying is that we know Ben's deal..and his actions are understandable (once we get past the anti-Other perception)..Danielle on the other-hand..well..she' far more dubious.

I'll back this up im sure, come S4

The stupid comment wasn't at you it was as what you were suggesting (which was ludicrious). Your retaliation however was personal!

Rousseau and Ben have both performed acts which can be labelled horrible but it depends on whether you think a lack of understanding of the sanctity of life is more defendable than say the madness that must follow having your baby stolen!