Isn't It Ironic?

[daviePOSEIDON]

Don't you think it's ironic how Michael gave Ana-Lucia the chance to shoot him early on. He said something along the lines of "If you're going to shoot me...shoot me!" Imagine how lost would be now if she had in fact shot Michael. Probably not much to discuss about this, I just like the irony.

[D-Roc]

Yes! good point..and this is something i remember a few people slamming Ana for - the fact that she 'waved a gun at Mike'..and yet here we are 20 odd episodes later and Mike still has not been slammed for killing the girls.

Anyhoo..got that off my chest ..youre right..it's funny how the mechanics of Lost come full circle or flip-reverse like that!

[daviePOSEIDON]

Yeah. Like you I'm surprised Michael hasn't been slammed for what he did. Remember it was not part of his task to shoot Ana. He could have gone about it another way.

[Murgatroyd]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,September 25, 2006 05:22 pm

Yes! good point..and this is something i remember a few people slamming Ana for - the fact that she 'waved a gun at Mike'..and yet here we are 20 odd episodes later and Mike still has not been slammed for killing the girls.

Yeeeees, that's right, Rocco. Nobody has done anything other than applaud Michael as if he were a saint.

But yeah, it's a fascinating irony - I rewatched that episode after Mike's shooting spree and it's a very strange moment in retrospect.

[StoneRose]

People have slammed Mike for what he did!!!!!!

Who said he was right for doing what he did Rocco, because I never read a post that said that.

Yes people were a little sympathetic towards his cause but I dont think anyone condoned him.

You and your bloody Anna eh!!!

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by daviePOSEIDON,September 25, 2006 06:25 pm

Yeah. Like you I'm surprised Michael hasn't been slammed for what he did. Remember it was not part of his task to shoot Ana. He could have gone about it another way.

Yeah thats the thing! He didnt have to kill her..he had options..several in fact and he just executed her. Cut her down in her prime! And still Ana gets stick for everything.

[lost-lover]

I slammed him I hate Michael and I have no sympathy for him!! *calms down* But yes, it is ironic how this situation came about. :P

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Murgatroyd,September 25, 2006 06:28 pm

Yeeeees, that's right, Rocco. Nobody has done anything other than applaud Michael as if he were a saint.

But yeah, it's a fascinating irony - I rewatched that episode after Mike's shooting spree and it's a very strange moment in retrospect.

lol, well im not suggesting people are calling him a saint - though i fear Mantis is boardering on that ..but it's like people "have forgetten"..forgotten who is lying 6 feet deep right now and who infact pulled the trigger when he didnt have to It particularly narks when i recall people having a go at Ana for merely waving a gun at Mike in Collision Afterall she IS [was ] a cop and had every right to calm down that situation how she thought best at the time. Whats Mike's excuse?

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by StoneRose,September 25, 2006 06:48 pm

People have slammed Mike for what he did!!!!!!

Who said he was right for doing what he did Rocco, because I never read a post that said that.

Yes people were a little sympathetic towards his cause but I dont think anyone condoned him.

You and your bloody Anna eh!!!

Yes but you dont have to say someone is right to advocate or champion them. I feel a lot of people have supported Mike in this bleak time. A time which i feel wouldve been better suited to remembering Ana and all her invaluable contributions has instead been tarnished and tainted by this 'talking-up' of Michael and his pseudo-excuses

[lost-lover]

I guess people could argue that Mike's excuse was to recover and protect his son from harm in the only way his wierd little mind thought of, but we can also argue Ana's point was to protect her people from a potental attack from the Others.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by lost-lover,September 25, 2006 07:19 pm

I guess people could argue that Mike's excuse was to recover and protect his son from harm in the only way his wierd little mind thought of, but we can also argue Ana's point was to protect her people from a potental attack from the Others.

True, lost-lover. I just wonder which action is less inexcusable. In my opinion it is definetely Mike's for so many reasons..but essentially because he wasnt ordered to kill Ana afterall..and well, because he killed Ana [and Libby, dont forget her ]

[StoneRose]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,September 25, 2006 06:17 pm

Yes but you dont have to say someone is right to advocate or champion them. I feel a lot of people have supported Mike in this bleak time. A time which i feel wouldve been better suited to remembering Ana and all her invaluable contributions has instead been tarnished and tainted by this 'talking-up' of Michael and his pseudo-excuses

Thats fair enough but imo the only person who tarnished Anna's reputation was Anna, nobody else.

What does it say about her when she's been murdered yet people arent really that bothered?

I think Annas personality has a lot to do with it, when Sun askes mike what had happened to Anna and Libby Mike replied 'They've been murdered'. In a way that acknoledgement of what he had done is so different to the reaction of Anna when her mum had asked her what happened to Jason. She just shrugged and didnt seem bothered.

Unfortunately if anna had a more acceptable attitude to human lives maybe we would have seen more sympathy towards her.

Again, Mike was completely wrong to kill Anna and Libby, I am not excusing his actions, just stating that Annas personality makes people not bothered that she is dead!!!

[IM-LOST-WITH-LOST]

yes stoney but in annas defense what jason had done to her was horrible. im not saying she should have killed him because she shouldnt, he should have served life or possibly death penalty (not sure on the punishments for shooting a police officer is in america??) but you have to give her a little lee-way in her reason for killing him

[lost-lover]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,September 25, 2006 06:21 pm

True, lost-lover. I just wonder which action is less inexcusable. In my opinion it is definetely Mike's for so many reasons..but essentially because he wasnt ordered to kill Ana afterall..and well, because he killed Ana [and Libby, dont forget her ]

Yeah, he had SO many more options! And lets not forget he's planning on trapping 4 of his friends (yes im calling Sawyr his friend!) into some unknown doom at the hands of a group of evil natives in the hope they won't double cross him and will hand over his son, who actually said to him "Don't trust them they're only pretending" imagine how it would have been if he'd just stopped and hought about things

[StoneRose]

Originally Posted by IM-LOST-WITH-LOST,September 25, 2006 06:29 pm

yes stoney but in annas defense what jason had done to her was horrible. im not saying she should have killed him because she shouldnt, he should have served life or possibly death penalty (not sure on the punishments for shooting a police officer is in america??) but you have to give her a little lee-way in her reason for killing him

I'm not saying that Jason didnt deserve to be punished, I like Anna, Its just I think the reason why there arent as many RIP Anna threads as some people might have thought there would be is that Anna isnt that nice of a person and a lot of people didnt warm to her.

I'm in no way condoning Mike or Jason.

Its just you have to admit her attitude to murder is quite disturbing. That IMO is why she is disliked more than other characters.