Lost Community Forums - Official Spoiler-free Lost Fansite  

Go Back   Lost Community Forums - Official Spoiler-free Lost Fansite > Lost Discussion Forums > Lost 'ABC' Season 4 Discussion > ABC: 4.13 There's No Place Like Home (Parts 2 & 3)

Notices

ABC: 4.13 There's No Place Like Home (Parts 2 & 3) ABC Paced Discussion forum for episode 4.13 There's No Place Like Home (Parts 2 & 3) - Originally aired May 29th 2008 on ABC

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-26-2008, 03:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
Hello Again :)
Island Architect
 
D-Roc's Avatar
 
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Locke's Heart
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Crucifix
Posts: 17,200
Question Was Locke Smoking Weed?

Whilst I abhor drugs, I couldn't help but wonder upon casting my mind back to the season finale, when Ben left Locke at the botanical station (Orchid).

Locke apprentely stumbled around looking for the plant that Ben had told him to find, but I wonder whether the writers added the cheeky subtext suggestion that Locke was smoking weed, hence his real inability to find the access point?

After all, that botanical station was filled with weird and wonderful plantlife..and Locke should know all about them considering his time at the drug commune back in the day.

so that begs the question, were Locke and Hurley smoking it up outside of the Orchid? Is this why Hugo was taking a leak - cos he wanted to dispose of any incriminating 'content'?

Of course I'm only speculating on the creative subtext possibly placed here by the writers - it's just too covenient imo.

Perhaps the message to all of the kids, was that drugs make you bumbling and confused - just like Locke was in that scene??

__________________


it all happened for a reason
the hunter
---
Following Ben Linus to the end of the wheel
AND IN TURN, THE END OF TIME & SPACE

D-Roc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links


Old 08-26-2008, 04:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
Pushing Penny Overboard
Island Guardian
 
firebreathingfishies's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: The mooooooon :D
Fave Character: Paulo
Lost Item: Kate's Map
Posts: 8,297
Send a message via MSN to firebreathingfishies
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 19 Creative Writing Award: Award for excellent creative writing - Issue reason: Award for excellent creative writing contributions Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Forumer You'd Most Like to Meet Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Forum Double-Act Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Sig-Maker Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Avatar Maker Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #18 LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 15 Create A Lost Character 2 - WINNER!: Winner of the Create A Lost Character 2 Contest - Issue reason: Winning Create A Lost Character 2 Contest Create A Lost Character 2 - 3rd Place: Achieving 3rd Place in Create A Lost Character 2 - Issue reason: 3rd Place in Create A Lost Character 2 Forum Excellence Award: Continued and excellent contribution to the forum - Issue reason: All round forum contribution and for graciously assisting others with their Lost graphics Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #13 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 12 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #8 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #6 
Total Awards: 17
Default

Uhhh.. I don't think so lol. I think there were a few more important things happening, and plus if Locke was stoned he would have totally freaked out at the thought of Time Travelling bunnies

He was definately in pursuit of the magic dragon in that flashback when he was helping that couple grow it all though
__________________



firebreathingfishies is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2008, 05:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
Hello Again :)
Island Architect
 
D-Roc's Avatar
 
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Locke's Heart
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Crucifix
Posts: 17,200
Default

Haha, good point. We are talking about Locke though

That commune storyline was well funny, they never quite inferred that Locke used the drugs, only that he helped grow them. keeping Mr. Sheen nice and clean
__________________


it all happened for a reason
the hunter
---
Following Ben Linus to the end of the wheel
AND IN TURN, THE END OF TIME & SPACE

D-Roc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2008, 07:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
Him
Entering 77
Island Believer
 
Him's Avatar
 
Asteroids Champion! Snake Champion!
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Edinburgh (for now)
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Whiskey
Posts: 7,741
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 16 Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Most Improved Forumer LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For help with making a forum image transparent LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - 3.02 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #1 
Total Awards: 6
Default

Were you smoking weed when you started this thread?
There are so many issues with this idea I don't where to start.
__________________


Vegetarian (n) - A bad hunter. Someone who survives by consuming not food, but the stuff that food eats


Him is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2008, 08:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
Hello Again :)
Island Architect
 
D-Roc's Avatar
 
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Locke's Heart
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Crucifix
Posts: 17,200
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Him View Post
Were you smoking weed when you started this thread?
There are so many issues with this idea I don't where to start.




Are you saying that it's impossible for there to be any underlying subtext in that scene?
__________________


it all happened for a reason
the hunter
---
Following Ben Linus to the end of the wheel
AND IN TURN, THE END OF TIME & SPACE

D-Roc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2008, 08:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
Pushing Penny Overboard
Island Guardian
 
firebreathingfishies's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: The mooooooon :D
Fave Character: Paulo
Lost Item: Kate's Map
Posts: 8,297
Send a message via MSN to firebreathingfishies
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 19 Creative Writing Award: Award for excellent creative writing - Issue reason: Award for excellent creative writing contributions Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Forumer You'd Most Like to Meet Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Forum Double-Act Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Sig-Maker Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Avatar Maker Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #18 LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 15 Create A Lost Character 2 - WINNER!: Winner of the Create A Lost Character 2 Contest - Issue reason: Winning Create A Lost Character 2 Contest Create A Lost Character 2 - 3rd Place: Achieving 3rd Place in Create A Lost Character 2 - Issue reason: 3rd Place in Create A Lost Character 2 Forum Excellence Award: Continued and excellent contribution to the forum - Issue reason: All round forum contribution and for graciously assisting others with their Lost graphics Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #13 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 12 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #8 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #6 
Total Awards: 17
Default

Well the thought didn't even occur to me until you mentioned it Roco Where did they get the weed from anyway? I don't think it would have just been lying around and, well, i doubt any of them had a lighter handy. Apart from perhaps Sawyer, but he didn't get there 'til later And cigarette papers? Bet no one had any of them either
__________________



firebreathingfishies is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2008, 09:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
Sacrifice the Island demanded
Survivor
 
freckles08's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Othersville
Fave Character: Sawyer
Lost Item: Radio
Posts: 693
Send a message via MSN to freckles08
Default

They could use leafs and what ever they use to light those tourches they are always carrying to light them

I've always suspected Locke Rember when his "Family" grew Weed
__________________

I Hate Madonna With A Vengance

Thanks to TTB for the inspiration ^^^^
freckles08 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2008, 10:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
OH-58D
Island Warrior
 
Kiowa Warrior's Avatar
 
Resident Evil Apocalypse Champion!Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Locke's Right Hand Side
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Hunting Knife
Posts: 7,051
Send a message via MSN to Kiowa Warrior
Awards Showcase
LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: Help with Forum Awards LC Forumer of The Year 2007-08: Voted by peers as the forumer of the year for 2007/08 - Issue reason: Voted by peers as the forumer of the year for 2007/08 LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Forum Excellence Award: Continued and excellent contribution to the forum - Issue reason: Quality Management of the Season 4 Lost Awards Part 1 Forum Excellence Award: Continued and excellent contribution to the forum - Issue reason: High level and consistent contribution to the forum Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #7 
Total Awards: 6
Default

No, I think Locke's drug of choice will always be his beloved wacky paste!
__________________


You can't prove it won't happen...
Kiowa Warrior is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2008, 10:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
Him
Entering 77
Island Believer
 
Him's Avatar
 
Asteroids Champion! Snake Champion!
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Edinburgh (for now)
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Whiskey
Posts: 7,741
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 16 Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Most Improved Forumer LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For help with making a forum image transparent LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - 3.02 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #1 
Total Awards: 6
Default

Sometimes I'm not sure whether to respond to threads like this. I get the feeling I'm having my leg pulled.

Quote:

That commune storyline was well funny, they never quite inferred that Locke used the drugs, only that he helped grow them. keeping Mr. Sheen nice and clean

What about the Wacky Paste?

Quote:
Are you saying that it's impossible for there to be any underlying subtext in that scene?
No, but I'm saying it's extremely unlikely. If they were going to make a statement about weed, they'd have made it during the commune episode.

There's no way the writers were saying they'd been literally been smoking weed in between the scenes we saw them appear (while everyone's lives are in danger). One does not just smoke raw marijuana plants, which is the form they'd likely be in, assuming there actually were any at all. The untended plants would need to have been dried out to be ready for smoking, and even then, they still don't have any papers or a light. They could have been eating the plants raw, I guess, though it's not very nice for the stomach, but still -- I can't imagine them just finding marijuana plants and instantly eating them while they're 'saving the Island'. It's crazy-talk!

I'd guess Hurley was taking a leak because he needed the toilet -- I don't see how him taking a leak would help him dispose of anything incriminating (and, incidentally, there's no law on an un-chartered island).

I tend to believe Locke couldn't find the plant because, as he said, he didn't know what it looked like -- and we did see him looking -- not because he was high. He would still be able to find it even if he was high . . .

It doesn't seem convenient to me at all! Even symbolically, it still seems like clutching at straws. I doubt anyone else had the same apparent subtext come across for them, which would make it a useless message.

And what's with the propaganda?
__________________


Vegetarian (n) - A bad hunter. Someone who survives by consuming not food, but the stuff that food eats



Last edited by Him; 08-26-2008 at 10:08 PM.
Him is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2008, 11:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
Flashing Desmond
Island Believer
 
JB Sawyer's Avatar
 
13 Days in Hell Champion! Simon Champion!
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Palace Of Wisdom
Fave Character: Juliet
Lost Item: Whiskey
Posts: 7,023
Send a message via MSN to JB Sawyer
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 17 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 24 Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Most Stubborn Forumer Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Love/Hate Relationship Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #22 Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - 3.01 
Total Awards: 6
Default

Um no.

Though he will have smoked the greens at the drug farm. This would have been the conversation:

Druggies: Ah go on it's cool.

Locke: Erm...I don't know.

Druggies: But it'll give you a good buzz man.

Locke: Still...I don't know.

Druggies: *Sigh* It'll make you special.

Locke: *Stuffs marajuana plant up nose*

And there is conclusive proof Locke smoked drugs
__________________
The Enigma
Heroes Is Better Than Lost

...heroes never die
JB Sawyer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2008, 04:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
Arzt go BOOM!
Survivor
 
KatesFate's Avatar
 
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sawyer's sun-tanned arms
Fave Character: Sawyer
Lost Item: Fish Biscuits
Posts: 1,224
Awards Showcase
Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: Award winner of the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #15 Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - 3.05 
Total Awards: 3
Default

It seems to me as if a few of you know just a little too much about smoking weed if you know what I mean.

What a strange subject to bring up. I cant quite grasp where you would come up with the idea that Locke was smoking pot. I know its been a long hiatus, but I think we're starting to read into things just a little too much now.

Locke was definitly not smoking pot. He is way too cool for that. He never even smoked any when he lived at that commune. (Well, that we know of anyway). I think Locke likes his wacky paste way more anyway. I could see Sawyer and Hurley smoking it though. Could you imagine the nicknames Sawyer would come up with and how many times Hurley would say dude? lol
__________________


The James "Sawyer" Ford Fan Club
Membership has its priveleges.
(Well not really, but we have great pics!)
KatesFate is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2008, 08:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
Pushing Penny Overboard
Island Guardian
 
firebreathingfishies's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: The mooooooon :D
Fave Character: Paulo
Lost Item: Kate's Map
Posts: 8,297
Send a message via MSN to firebreathingfishies
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 19 Creative Writing Award: Award for excellent creative writing - Issue reason: Award for excellent creative writing contributions Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Forumer You'd Most Like to Meet Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Forum Double-Act Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Sig-Maker