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Old 06-03-2008, 10:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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In the Orientation video inside the Orchid, Hallowax says that the Vault (the thing he put the bunny in and what Ben put the metal stuff in) was located adjacent to "a pocket of negatively charged exotic matter".

Personally I find this facinating, because not only does it sound cool () but it perhaps explains why/how 'antartica' is on the underside of that station. I mean, we see Ben go from tropical island cavern, to the north-polesque climes.

Could exotic matter help create a wormhole or portal..allowing an object to travel very large distances in a very short space of time? and what about the "negatively charged" part? Any physicists in the house?

Anyway, exotic matter? what's the deal?
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Exotic matter is a hypothetical concept of particle physics. It covers any material which violates one or more classical conditions or is not made of known baryonic particles. Such materials would possess qualities like negative mass or being repelled rather than attracted by gravity. It is used in certain speculative theories, such as on the construction of wormholes. The closest known real representative of exotic matter is a region of pseudo-negative pressure density produced by the Casimir effect.
The term is also casually attached to any material which is difficult to produce (such as metallic hydrogen or a Bose-Einstein condensate) or which exhibits unusual properties (such as fullerenes or nanotubes), even though these materials have been created and are relatively well understood.[citation needed] It can also refer to material composed of some form of exotic atom.
So it's a 'hypothetical' concept. My, Dharma HAVE been busy.
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I noticed this also - even rewinding his sentence to hear it again. Very fascinating indeed. Also, interesting point about the freezing conditions beneath the Vault. I wonder whether this phenomena was 'made-man' or 'natural' - or a mix of the two?
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I noticed this also - even rewinding his sentence to hear it again. Very fascinating indeed. Also, interesting point about the freezing conditions beneath the Vault. I wonder whether this phenomena was 'made-man' or 'natural' - or a mix of the two?
I think it is probably a natural phenomena which the D.I. used/manipulated for the purposes of time-travel.

ONe wonders whether the freezing conditions beneath the island will also be moved with the island..i guess one wuold assume so, seeing as the hydra island also got moved.
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I don't see how Dharma would have created exotic matter, so I'll agree with Roco that it's natural and they merely used it for their experiments.
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I think it is probably a natural phenomena which the D.I. used/manipulated for the purposes of time-travel.

ONe wonders whether the freezing conditions beneath the island will also be moved with the island..i guess one wuold assume so, seeing as the hydra island also got moved.
I wonder whether the matter is limited to that small area [i.e. the Vault] or whether the whole it covers the WHOLE station. Irrelevant I suppose. However, I wonder how on Earth they came across it in the first place - though I would imagine there are ways to detect such phenomena. I would not put it past them knowing what they were looking for.

I would imagine so. The area beneath the Island was apart of the Island so I can only assume it moved also. How do you know the Hydra Station was moved? Though yes I would also believe that would move also.
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Since the small island nearby waas moves I'd assume the Hydra was moved too.
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Oh sorry, yes I forgot about that. Thank you for pointing it out LL The fact moving the Island moved the smaller one too is interesting. Perhaps they were joined on the Sea bed.
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Like a pennisula, you mean? (I think that's the right word?)
Wasn't the Hydra also connecting them?
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Does the Peninsula always have to stay above the Sea level? I thought the Hydra was purely based on the second Island.

"A peninsula is a piece of land that is bordered on three or more sides by water, but is still attached to the mainland".

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