The Oceanic 6 story

[Lauren [is Lost]]

Taken from the episode transcript thread-

MS. DECKER: Based on the location of the wreckage, our best estimate of the crash site is... (click) here. From there, the survivors were carried by the ocean's current to... (click) here--an uninhabited island in the Lesser Sunda Islands known as Membata. As you've all read in your briefing books, on day 103... (click) a typhoon washed up the remnants of an Indonesian fishing boat, including basic supplies and a survival raft. On day 108, the remaining six survivors, including Ms. Austen's baby which she gave birth to on the island of Membata, used this raft to journey here-- (click) an island called Sumba. They then came ashore near a village called Manukangga. This photo was taken by the local fisherman who found them. Once it was discovered who they were, they were transported to Honolulu by the U.S. Coast Guard. As you can imagine, this has been an extraordinarily trying experience. They have, however, agreed to answer a few questions. So, ladies and gentlemen, the survivors of Oceanic 8-1-5.
(All shouting at once)
MS. DECKER: Yes.
MALE REPORTER #1: Dr. Shephard! Dr. Shephard! Can you tell us what it was like when the plane hit the ocean? Uh, how you survived.
JACK: Um...
(shutters continue snapping)
JACK: It--it all happened really fast. I remember the impact. I remember the--the plane filling up with water. A group of us got to the emergency door, and, um... got out before it went down.
MALE REPORTER #1: And those of you who survived--you swam to the island?
JACK: No. We had, uh, cushions. We had some life jackets. We were in the water for over a day before the current took us in. By then, there was only eight of us left.

Is anyone else slightly baffled by this? What i'm wondering is - who made this story up? How do Oceanic have all the details? (and 'photos' from a fisherman on the island)...what? Something definately isn't quite right here. What's with the long detailed story about them using a survival raft and then getting a boat and all sorts....very confusing

[D-Roc]

All very bizarre, although i'm not suprised - we knew they had been given a cover story. The story is rather more convoluted than I had anticipated however - for instance Sun's insistence that Jin perished on the plane..and not in the sea or on the island.

Kate's claim that she gave birth to Aaron 5 weeks ago, is perhaps the strangest and most interesting aspect for me - Aaron, if i'm not mistaken is at least 2-3 months old at this point - would the 'real world' not notice that he looks rather older than 5 weeks? Although the reporter didn't seem to convinced by the story. More interesting the fact that she 'clearly' wasn't pregnant prior to boarding the plane - the authorities surely know this? it's not as if Ed Mars was the ONLY person who knew of her days before the 'crash'..



The island cover story is also rather far fetched..either the photo was faked and the 'villagers' were are in on the story..or Locke actually managed to move the island and the O6 somehow ended up near Indonesia. I would think that the photo was faked (although i do believe that Locke manages to move the island).

Interestingly Sun doesn't appear to be in the photo - wouldn't the reporters want a photo with her in it? Why only show one? Where is Turnip head in the photo?



The island appears to be an actual island..as I said, all very convoluted

[Lauren [is Lost]]

Originally Posted by D-Roc

All very bizarre, although i'm not suprised - we knew they had been given a cover story. The story is rather more convoluted than I had anticipated however - for instance Sun's insistence that Jin perished on the plane..and not in the sea or on the island.

Yes, we knew about the cover up, but i just wondered why this story. And who made it up?
Yes, that was rather strange about Sun - although i suppose it was easier for her to say that Jin died in the plane rather than that he survived the crash and then died...

Kate's claim that she gave birth to Aaron 5 weeks ago, is perhaps the strangest and most interesting aspect for me - Aaron, if i'm not mistaken is at least 2-3 months old at this point - would the 'real world' not notice that he looks rather older than 5 weeks? Although the reporter didn't seem to convinced by the story. More interesting the fact that she 'clearly' wasn't pregnant prior to boarding the plane - the authorities surely know this? it's not as if Ed Mars was the ONLY person who knew of her days before the 'crash'..

Yes, that was very bizzare...unless Aaron is in fact only 5 weeks old? I seem to have lost track of time on the island (rather appropriately!) lol. The only possibility i can think of is that its something to do with the time difference?? Maybe the time they've been on the island isn't as long as it seemed? Although in the story Oceanic woman still listed the day numbers and stuff...hmm. Very strange indeed! Oh unless it was something to do with the fact that Kate was supposedly pregnant on the plane? Like, she had to say she gave birth later than Aaron was born because it would mean she wasn't as pregnant on the actual flight? Hence why she wasn't showing...

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The island cover story is also rather far fetched..either the photo was faked and the 'villagers' were are in on the story..or Locke actually managed to move the island and the O6 somehow ended up near Indonesia. I would think that the photo was faked (although i do believe that Locke manages to move the island).

Interestingly Sun doesn't appear to be in the photo - wouldn't the reporters want a photo with her in it? Why only show one? Where is Turnip head in the photo?

I've just been studying that photo, and it freaks me out for some reason! It looks real...is that the Zodiac they are pulling out the water? Maybe thats how they escape? Like, maybe they really do use the boat to get to that island. Perhaps most/all of the losties are actually on the freighter, and something happens and they need to escape...and the 6 get there first? The explosion perhaps?

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The island appears to be an actual island..as I said, all very convoluted

Hmm...like i said, maybe they actually do use the Zodiac to get there.

Interesting stuff, anyhow!

[Lauren [is Lost]]

This part also intrigues me.

JACK: It--it all happened really fast. I remember the impact. I remember the--the plane filling up with water. A group of us got to the emergency door, and, um... got out before it went down.
MALE REPORTER #1: And those of you who survived--you swam to the island?
JACK: No. We had, uh, cushions. We had some life jackets. We were in the water for over a day before the current took us in. By then, there was only eight of us left.

WHY are they saying that 8 survived?
Also, it puzzles me how the story is so specific...

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by Lauren [is Lost]

Yes, we knew about the cover up, but i just wondered why this story. And who made it up?
Yes, that was rather strange about Sun - although i suppose it was easier for her to say that Jin died in the plane rather than that he survived the crash and then died...

Yeah, out of all the stories they could have came up with, why 'this' one? It makes we wonder whether the suggestion is that this is routine 'protocol' and it isn't the first time that Oceanic (of other such industries in the Lostverse) have had to run stories like this? It's also interesting how Jack is so comitted to the story, whilst the likes of Kate and Sun are not as adament. Assuming that Jack knows he made a 'mistake' in helping the freighties come to the island..why is he so determined to go with the 'story'? It's almost as if he's in denial..I find his attachment to the cover up over and beyond what it shoud be

Yes, that was very bizzare...unless Aaron is in fact only 5 weeks old? I seem to have lost track of time on the island (rather appropriately!) lol. The only possibility i can think of is that its something to do with the time difference?? Maybe the time they've been on the island isn't as long as it seemed? Although in the story Oceanic woman still listed the day numbers and stuff...hmm. Very strange indeed! Oh unless it was something to do with the fact that Kate was supposedly pregnant on the plane? Like, she had to say she gave birth later than Aaron was born because it would mean she wasn't as pregnant on the actual flight? Hence why she wasn't showing...

True, he might be..although i was under the impression that each season of Lost effectively represented 30-40 days..he was born in episode 20 of season 1.. Somethings just not right..

Yes good call, the time-difference is probably the most logical explaination, since I would say that leaving the island puts you behind island time, whereas entering the island puts you ahead of island time (as witnessed with the payload, Sayid/Des leaving on the chopper and Dr Ray's carcus)

I've just been studying that photo, and it freaks me out for some reason! It looks real...is that the Zodiac they are pulling out the water? Maybe thats how they escape? Like, maybe they really do use the boat to get to that island. Perhaps most/all of the losties are actually on the freighter, and something happens and they need to escape...and the 6 get there first? The explosion perhaps?

Yeah, either they put on VERY good act..or they did actually stumble across the island in this way..just after all of the events of the real island? Maybe the freighter blows up and these 6 manage to escape (in the Zodiac) in time and somehow stumble across this other island?

Yeah, it does look like the Zodiac - as you say, perhaps they do find this island in this way. I think we're on the same page with this one

Also, this could explain why Sun, though clearly grieving, wasn't as broken down as I would expect her to be given Jin's recent death. She was relatively stable, which could support the argument that they were at sea on the Zodiac for several days before they stubled up the "Sumba" island..thus given Sun time to gather herself..?

Although if the Zodiac is in the photo wouldn't that raise suspicions seeing as they were supposed to have been in a plane crash..? Hmm, very confusing..

[D-Roc]

Thought about this somemore, and i now think that the photo is 100% genuine as speculated above.

So to disect the supposed events:

Oceanic 815 crashes here near Mebata. The surviving Losties get carried to the unihabited island:


Here's the crucial part, I think: An Indonesian fishing raft washes up on shore, and in a bid to 'seek' rescue they set sail and end up here, on the populated Sumba island:



This is when the photo is taken - so it's likely that the photo is 'genuine', and the Oceanic 6 did happen upon the island as Decker says.

However, as we all know, the rest of the story is fake (Kate being Aaron's mom, there being no other survivors, ommision of where theyt really were etc etc). This is what now also makes me believe that JACK is the one who came up with this cover story, and NOT Oceanic. Jack (along with Sayid) seems the most invested in the story, and we ALL know that "committment" makes him tick, and he'd only be that committed in something he came up with.

So yeah, basically that's where i'm at with this aspect of the show right now..i'm thinking that they did wash up on Sumba and the photo is genuine. I could be wrong or right..but what i'm really interested in is what happened to the rest of them (Locke, Ben, Mike, Jin, Desmond, Freighties, Team Keam etc).

For me, Jack doesn't appear all that guilty at this stage..infact the guilt, although underneath the surface, takes quite a while to fully 'manifest' (Christian, suicide attempts etc)..which makes me think that Jack didn't betray or make a direct choice for just those 6 to leave. It's almost as if the choice was out of his hands, and he's finally learned to "let go". Although as I said, this doesn't last for ever..

EDIT: I also found it interesting that Decker referenced that a "typhoon" washed the Indonesian boat onto the uninhabited island where the losties supposedly where - which makes me wonder..have they finallt referenced the 2006 Tsunami like many of us thought they would? It would seem likely. To their credit, they've handled it pretty well..been respectful by not 'showcasing' it, but also used it as a decent plot device..