There's No Place Like Home Villain of the Week

[monster-eats-pilot]

Well it proved he was not a good guy.

Yeah I agree. It'll be interesting to see how Ben and Keamy compare in terms of being villains.

[Reed]

Originally Posted by monster-eats-pilot

Well it proved he was not a good guy.

Yeah I agree. It'll be interesting to see how Ben and Keamy compare in terms of being villains.

Again I think with that particular instance, he was doing his job.

I think Ben will never be as violent as Keamy though Ben has had his moments.

[monster-eats-pilot]

Well yes and his job makes him a villain, that's why he's clearly winning in this thread

I agree. Ben is more cunning and very normal about it all but there is evil in that. Keamy is just full on violent 'let's kill for the fun of it to get what I want' evil.

Ben's 'evil' is similar to Widmores.

[Reed]

Originally Posted by monster-eats-pilot

Well yes and his job makes him a villain, that's why he's clearly winning in this thread

I agree. Ben is more cunning and very normal about it all but there is evil in that. Keamy is just full on violent 'let's kill for the fun of it to get what I want' evil.

Ben's 'evil' is similar to Widmores.

Very funny, but yes you are correct there. I was just trying to say I think he is probably nice by personality. Though that is not really relevant so nevermind.

Exactly, they are like opposites really. Widmore and Ben is a good comparison, considering we saw Widmore's men beat that man up on Ben's video tape.

[monster-eats-pilot]

Originally Posted by Reed

Very funny, but yes you are correct there. I was just trying to say I think he is probably nice by personality. Though that is not really relevant so nevermind.

Exactly, they are like opposites really. Widmore and Ben is a good comparison, considering we saw Widmore's men beat that man up on Ben's video tape.

Hmm. I'm not really sure. To be so good at killing innocent people without a second thought needs a heart of stone. He is very good at his job which means he must enjoy it.

Well yes. Widmore never seems to go any of the dirty work he is just in charge really. Keamy seems to do both he likes being in charge but loves to do the dirty work. Ben is kind of difficult. He does the 'dirty work' so to speak but it's manipulation not actually physical harm. Although his manipulation gets others to do the dirty work so he's abit of both. I guess you could say everybody is a 'villain' in different ways.

[The_abbott]

As keamy never killed anyone this week, I'll go with Kate. This woman is so selfish.

[Reed]

Originally Posted by monster-eats-pilot

Hmm. I'm not really sure. To be so good at killing innocent people without a second thought needs a heart of stone. He is very good at his job which means he must enjoy it.

Well yes. Widmore never seems to go any of the dirty work he is just in charge really. Keamy seems to do both he likes being in charge but loves to do the dirty work. Ben is kind of difficult. He does the 'dirty work' so to speak but it's manipulation not actually physical harm. Although his manipulation gets others to do the dirty work so he's abit of both. I guess you could say everybody is a 'villain' in different ways.

Possibly yes. I suppose it HAS to be apart of his personality to a degree.

Defintely. I suppose at this stage we do not really know much about Widmore and his work. I think each are unique in their own ways. I think Ben is likely to be more 'manipulative' and 'clever' than Widmore based on how good he is at what he does. I suppose Island life is at Ben's advantage. Keamy is just your typical brute with a gun, nothing more in my opinion. I think Ben possesses the best of both worlds.

[harvey107]

Keamy - I'm still routing for Ben!

[monster-eats-pilot]

Originally Posted by Reed

Possibly yes. I suppose it HAS to be apart of his personality to a degree.

Defintely. I suppose at this stage we do not really know much about Widmore and his work. I think each are unique in their own ways. I think Ben is likely to be more 'manipulative' and 'clever' than Widmore based on how good he is at what he does. I suppose Island life is at Ben's advantage. Keamy is just your typical brute with a gun, nothing more in my opinion. I think Ben possesses the best of both worlds.

Yeah you can't go into something like that light heartedly. Maybe there was something in his past that caused him to become like this?

I agree we'd need to find out more about Widmore to see how he gets his 'jobs' done. Yeah Ben does have the 'best of both worlds'

[Murg]

I think my basic feeling about Keamy and Ben is that I find Keamy more frightening and more dangerous and Ben more disturbing. Keamy I can't get very interested about, though obviously his presence has interesting implications for the welfare of anyone around him - he kills mercilessly and apparently without any qualms or forethought, making him, in my view, about as interesting a tidal wave. Ben is a much deeper character at the moment, but more disturbing than Keamy because, oddly, he shows more in the way of an albeit very twisted humanity: he does kill or order the deaths of the innocent, whatever he might like to think (was Charlie guilty? Bonnie? Greta? The Bedouin?), but he's rationalised it according to his own 'moral code' (which Keamy seems to lack entirely) - he 'needed' Charlie to die; his father 'deserved' to die ... which is why he feels, in spite of much evidence to the contrary, that he can get away with saying he isn't a killer. Whereas Keamy feels no need to rationalise anything at all because the killing seemingly isn't something that troubles him in any sense - which, in my view, makes him more terrifying that but not as infuriating as Ben.