A long overdue Pro-Jack comment from me

[lost-lover]

Originally Posted by Beach Crew

Exactly If there's a problem, people run to Jack. He never gets a minute to himself, and he never has chance to check his own problems. I feel bad for him. He does a brilliant job considering his Daddy-issues. Granted, he does need to take a break but it's not his fault he's so adament to help - nobody gives him a chance to back out, and very few people offer to help him. Yes, I'll agree. Sawyer did an excellent job when he was leading the camp but as soon as Jack was back in camp people ignroed Sawyer and looked to Jack again. He has no choice. And I agree, he should be resting, he should be looking after himself but I stand by my idea that some people on this forum would still be angry at Jack if he had just laid back on the beach. Nothing he ever does seems to be the right thing, which is why I feel that he shouldn't even bother sometimes. I know he needs to take care of himself, but as a doctor, he's a born worrier and so we can expect him to care. I hope he rests but I don't think he'll get chance now

Thank you, and no, shockingly, Kate isn't on my list

Okay I can't arue with that. As soon as Jack comes back the temporary leaders seem to just be forgotten, which is pretty sad really. I'll also agree that if Jack did sit around doing nothing people on the forum would undoubtably complain, it's a Catch-22 for the doc really.
Jack's problem though, is he worries too much, probably, as you say, because he's a doctor, but in situations like this one it's not helping the group at all. Jack is incapable of shutting off the leader instinct in him, possibly because he's so determined to prove his Dad wrong. He needs to shut down once in a while because when he's in overdrive he just gets irrational. If Jack and Sawyer run into trouble - which I think is highly likely - then Jack's not going to be able to back Sawyer up very well. Jack needs to rest because at half-health he's no good to his comrades, he knows this, but he's ignoring what would be his own advice. They're traipsing through the jungle after people they know is dangerous. Juliet told him that they could go after the chopper without him but he wouldn't listen, and if that leads to Sawyer dying at the hands of Keamy and Co, I'm not going to be happy with Jack!

Poor Kate, she's on my list. Okay, that's a lie. A big lie.

[monster-eats-pilot]

I accept that Jack has been pushed into the leader position [he loves it though] but surely he could of just sent Kate and Daniel and Charlotte and someone else to follow the chopper while he rested and still did his leader job back at ye olde camp helping the beach crowd get ready to leave and what not.

[Beach Crew]

Originally Posted by lost-lover

Okay I can't arue with that. As soon as Jack comes back the temporary leaders seem to just be forgotten, which is pretty sad really. I'll also agree that if Jack did sit around doing nothing people on the forum would undoubtably complain, it's a Catch-22 for the doc really.
Jack's problem though, is he worries too much, probably, as you say, because he's a doctor, but in situations like this one it's not helping the group at all. Jack is incapable of shutting off the leader instinct in him, possibly because he's so determined to prove his Dad wrong. He needs to shut down once in a while because when he's in overdrive he just gets irrational. If Jack and Sawyer run into trouble - which I think is highly likely - then Jack's not going to be able to back Sawyer up very well. Jack needs to rest because at half-health he's no good to his comrades, he knows this, but he's ignoring what would be his own advice. They're traipsing through the jungle after people they know is dangerous. Juliet told him that they could go after the chopper without him but he wouldn't listen, and if that leads to Sawyer dying at the hands of Keamy and Co, I'm not going to be happy with Jack!

Poor Kate, she's on my list. Okay, that's a lie. A big lie.

I couldn't agree more. I really thought it was Sawyer's chance to shine, but pretty mcuh once Jack was back, and once Jules was accepted, Jack was seen as the leader again, and Sawyer was ignored. And good, I'm glad. Jack gets really bad press, and most of the time he doesn't deserve it.
I agree with that. Jack is so determined to help everyone that he's willing to put his own life at risk to do so. I think this is a great and dangerous thing at the same time. And there's nothing wrong with wanting to prove his dad wrong - he just wants to make him proud. I know it's very dangerous, the situation where he and Sawyer are off in the jungle, and I will be SO angry with Jack if Sawyer dies or gets hurt. I agree that this is Jack's downfall - sometimes he gets so caught up in saving people etc that he puts people at risk. A lot like Locke. But Locke is much worse at this then Jack - I'd never go on a jungle hike with Locke. Jack, however, I'd happily skip off with. I have faith however that Team Jawyer is stronger than ever and that they will hopefully be fine. If not fine, at least not dead. Hopefully. But like you, if Jack causes Sawyer's death then I don't know if I'll cope, but Sawyer is the one who appears to be suggesting that they go after Hurls. And as i've said many times, if Sawyer gets himself killed by being a hero then I'll kill him, lol.

I was gonna say, that's a shock

Originally Posted by monster-eats-pilot

I accept that Jack has been pushed into the leader position [he loves it though] but surely he could of just sent Kate and Daniel and Charlotte and someone else to follow the chopper while he rested and still did his leader job back at ye olde camp helping the beach crowd get ready to leave and what not.

I, personally, would not trust Charlotte and or Daniel to do anything considering they have continulously lied to everyone on the island. I can't see Jack trusting them with the woman he loves. I just think this is something Jack needs to do - protect and help rescue his friends.

[monster-eats-pilot]

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[Kiowa Warrior]

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[harvey107]

Originally Posted by Kiowa Warrior

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Do you know that it is said that protesting to mush that you don't like someone means that you really do like them

[Kiowa Warrior]

Originally Posted by harvey107

Do you know that it is said that protesting to mush that you don't like someone means that you really do like them

Yes I have heard of that; but I've also heard that protesting too much about someone simply means you really don't like them

If some people think that I really do like Jack and am just too scared to fully admit it fair enough please enjoy your theory, but I can guarantee that I don't!

[monster-eats-pilot]

Originally Posted by Kiowa Warrior

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