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Old 05-07-2008, 11:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think if we eliminate the term 'Neutral' we are better off. Clearly both men in question have done bad things so I think should a 3rd person come into the mix he could also be 'bad' but then again he could be parallel to Ben and Charles - i.e. he could be THE good guy.

Widmore was once a good man before having the Island "stolen" from him, so I think we have evidence of both men being good and bad.

Perhaps 3 is a crowd - will we see a third powerhouse enter the fray?
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I don't think there can be netural between them and no room for a 3rd person. It's either Ben's side or Widmore's side.
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I agree, I think Lost would enter sitcom territory if a 3rd person entered.
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I think if we eliminate the term 'Neutral' we are better off. Clearly both men in question have done bad things so I think should a 3rd person come into the mix he could also be 'bad' but then again he could be parallel to Ben and Charles - i.e. he could be THE good guy.

Widmore was once a good man before having the Island "stolen" from him, so I think we have evidence of both men being good and bad.

Perhaps 3 is a crowd - will we see a third powerhouse enter the fray?

Actually Id rather we left the idea of 'good' and 'bad' alone all together because I dont think its a correct and accurate term for Ben and Widmore and it just confuses things. Maybe light and dark would be better, and the netrual being grey?

And I belive that there has to be a 3rd party out there - the one whos goal it is to bring the light and dark together in union and co-operation

(makes it sound like that Ben and Widmore are getting married )
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esn please read your avatar to me, two players. I doubt they'd introduce a third person who would be completely in the middle. And if they did they'd be playing Widmore and Ben
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Actually Id rather we left the idea of 'good' and 'bad' alone all together because I dont think its a correct and accurate term for Ben and Widmore and it just confuses things. Maybe light and dark would be better, and the netrual being grey?

And I belive that there has to be a 3rd party out there - the one whos goal it is to bring the light and dark together in union and co-operation

(makes it sound like that Ben and Widmore are getting married )
Perhaps with their 'goodness' and 'badness', we have our balance in the show. Less we forget about Alvar Hanso who may be thrown into the mix at some point?
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esn please read your avatar to me, two players. I doubt they'd introduce a third person who would be completely in the middle. And if they did they'd be playing Widmore and Ben

No they wouldnt - they would be bringing the two players together

Ying and yang - in lost terms, they are seperated and unequal. They need to be brought together and made equal again. Thats what the two sides is all about IMO
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Adding a third side completely messes things up and IMO will confuse the whole thing
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Perhaps with their 'goodness' and 'badness', we have our balance in the show. Less we forget about Alvar Hanso who may be thrown into the mix at some point?
Interesting idea

but like I say, lost is way beyond any good v evil concept IMO. Just simply two sides that are seperated but need to work togther for harmony, perhaps with a third party bringing them together

Or perhaps they already are and they dont know it? Ben and Widmore balance each other out, and need to obey certain rules to make sure that this is the case? They are working against each other, but also with each other? Hence why Ben cant kill Widmore, and needs to kill Penny to balance things out?
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Adding a third side completely messes things up and IMO will confuse the whole thing

Or maybe it will bring sense to the chaos and make things clearer? Things arent exactly clear at the moment?
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Ok if it was for anything else I'd agree. But this is something you need two sides for and can't have a 3rd person
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