Lost Community Forums - Official Spoiler-free Lost Fansite  

Go Back   Lost Community Forums - Official Spoiler-free Lost Fansite > Lost Discussion Forums > Season 4 UK Episode Discussion > 4.08 Meet Kevin Johnson

Notices

4.08 Meet Kevin Johnson Discussion for Meet Kevin Johnson - Originally aired 23/03/08 on Sky One.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-14-2008, 09:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
Hello Again :)
Island Architect
 
D-Roc's Avatar
 
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Locke's Heart
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Crucifix
Posts: 17,172
Talking When Push Comes to Shove..She's Daddy's Girl

Alex hates her father, so much so that she have John Locke gun before their walk to Jacob's-ville - imagine giving a gun to your fathers opponent? Imagine what it must take to do such a thing.

Sure, Alex feels that her father is dictating her life for her, she can't see past her teenaged angst, but still, it took some doing and said alot about her feelings towards Ben.

With that in mind - as well as her other anti-Ben actions which I wont bother mention - it made me laugh when push came to shove and she willingly declared herself as "Ben's daughter"..

She said it with such pride and gusto, obviously knowing that this could save her life. But the thing is, she had just lost Karl (not to mention Roussy) - the 'love of her life', apparently. Now if Karl meant that much to her, as we were led to believe, would she so quickly re-affirm herself as 'Ben's daughter' to save her own hide?

I mean doesn't it say something that when push came to shove, she wasn't prepared to follow her 'love' romeo and juliet-esque into the afterlife, instead choosing to screw whatshisface and mother dearest and declare her sudden 'pro-Ben' stance.

I guess when all is said and done, she's daddy's girl afterall There might be hope for her afterall
__________________

Ben shows Jack how to Pop his Collar
---
Following Ben Linus to the end of the wheel
AND IN TURN, THE END OF TIME & SPACE

D-Roc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links


Old 04-14-2008, 09:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
Locking Jack in a coffin
Island Guardian
 
monster-eats-pilot's Avatar
 
Ants Champion! Movie Star Match-Up Champion! Duck Hunt 2 Champion!
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mystery Frickin' Island
Fave Character: Smokey
Lost Item: Jesus Stick
Posts: 7,534
Send a message via MSN to monster-eats-pilot
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 18 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #26 Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Forum Double-Act Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Friendliest Forumer LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 17 Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - 3.10 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #10 
Total Awards: 8
Default

You must expect though Roco the fact that she isn't really Ben's daughter unless Rousseau and Ben were um well you know in the jungle
__________________
monster-eats-pilot is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2008, 09:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
esn
"So this is it, huh?"
Survivor
 
esn's Avatar
 
3 foot ninja Champion! 8 Ball Champion Champion! 2 Hand Poker Champion!
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sussex by the sea
Fave Character: Hurley
Posts: 4,002
Send a message via MSN to esn
Awards Showcase
Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Love/Hate Relationship Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #24 
Total Awards: 2
Default

Im not sure, I just took it that she would do whatever it takes to survive (just like her old man then)

I dont think there was any pride in her admission at all. Quite the opposite in fact, I think that it was meant in a "I have information" type thing and making that admission was the quickest way she could think of to save her own life - otherwise (from her view), "they" would have shot her.

That is of course, if she thought that the people who were shoting at her were indeed the people who were after Ben and not some random group of renegade others who saw Karl and Danille and made 5.
__________________

esn is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2008, 10:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
Making Taco's for Kate
Island Survivor
 
-x-madegurl-x-'s Avatar
 
Ultimate Pie Theft Champion! SpongeBob's Pizza Toss Champion!
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Belper
Fave Character: Boone
Lost Item: Dharma Flakes
Posts: 6,818
Send a message via MSN to -x-madegurl-x-
Awards Showcase
Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Nickname Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #21 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 16 
Total Awards: 3
Default

i agree with esn. she didn't exactly sound proud.
didn't danielle or smebody say that if they knew she was then they would use her for info?
__________________

-x-madegurl-x- is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2008, 10:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
Being Kerrazy with Keamy
Island Guardian
 
firebreathingfishies's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Enacting A Sooper Dooper Secret Jack Plan
Fave Character: Paulo
Lost Item: Kate's Map
Posts: 8,249
Send a message via MSN to firebreathingfishies
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 19 Creative Writing Award: Award for excellent creative writing - Issue reason: Award for excellent creative writing contributions Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Forumer You'd Most Like to Meet Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Forum Double-Act Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Sig-Maker Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Avatar Maker Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #18 LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 15 Create A Lost Character 2 - WINNER!: Winner of the Create A Lost Character 2 Contest - Issue reason: Winning Create A Lost Character 2 Contest Create A Lost Character 2 - 3rd Place: Achieving 3rd Place in Create A Lost Character 2 - Issue reason: 3rd Place in Create A Lost Character 2 Forum Excellence Award: Continued and excellent contribution to the forum - Issue reason: All round forum contribution and for graciously assisting others with their Lost graphics Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #13 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 12 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #8 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #6 
Total Awards: 17
Default

Noooooo she isn't She might have that 'love' that everyone has for their family (and taking Ben's the only family she's ever known will add to that) But it doesn't mean she actually likes him. After the Karl/Danielle hit, she'll probably hate him even more
__________________



firebreathingfishies is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2008, 11:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
esn
"So this is it, huh?"
Survivor
 
esn's Avatar
 
3 foot ninja Champion! 8 Ball Champion Champion! 2 Hand Poker Champion!
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sussex by the sea
Fave Character: Hurley
Posts: 4,002
Send a message via MSN to esn
Awards Showcase
Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Love/Hate Relationship Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #24 
Total Awards: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by -x-madegurl-x- View Post
i agree with esn. she didn't exactly sound proud.
didn't danielle or smebody say that if they knew she was then they would use her for info?
Wow somone openly agrees with me

I do belive it was Ben himself that gave her that info
__________________

esn is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 10:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
Hello Again :)
Island Architect
 
D-Roc's Avatar
 
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Locke's Heart
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Crucifix
Posts: 17,172
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by monster-eats-pilot View Post
You must expect though Roco the fact that she isn't really Ben's daughter unless Rousseau and Ben were um well you know in the jungle
But she is Ben's daughter - it takes a boy to have a baby but a man to raise and love a child, even if it isn't his own.

Quote:
Originally Posted by esn View Post
Im not sure, I just took it that she would do whatever it takes to survive (just like her old man then)

I dont think there was any pride in her admission at all. Quite the opposite in fact, I think that it was meant in a "I have information" type thing and making that admission was the quickest way she could think of to save her own life - otherwise (from her view), "they" would have shot her.

That is of course, if she thought that the people who were shoting at her were indeed the people who were after Ben and not some random group of renegade others who saw Karl and Danille and made 5.
Pride or desperation, she was quick to attach herself as being a decendant of Ben's loins. Such a departure from her anti-Ben ethos struck me as being rather...interesting. I think Karl would have rolled over in his grave had he seen her do that. Oh, wait.

Quote:
Originally Posted by -x-madegurl-x- View Post
i agree with esn. she didn't exactly sound proud.
didn't danielle or smebody say that if they knew she was then they would use her for info?
Yes, Ben himself told her that. I'm not for one minute suggesting that this information was given fruitlessly - but i find it rather funny that she should 'betray' Karl (if you will) by leaving him to bleedout and attaching herself to Benjamin..the man she hates..apparently.

Call it fickle or a girl coming of age, but it gave me a chuckle seeing her do a 360 better than an X-Box

Quote:
Originally Posted by firebreathingfishies View Post
Noooooo she isn't She might have that 'love' that everyone has for their family (and taking Ben's the only family she's ever known will add to that) But it doesn't mean she actually likes him. After the Karl/Danielle hit, she'll probably hate him even more
Interesting - although I'm not saying she likes him per se, but therein lies the irony and shamelessness of her actions. Her rebellion has been broken and perhaps now she will understand that she has only one father but Karl's are like fishes in the sea..and boy is he swimming with them.
__________________

Ben shows Jack how to Pop his Collar
---
Following Ben Linus to the end of the wheel
AND IN TURN, THE END OF TIME & SPACE

D-Roc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 11:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
Locking Jack in a coffin
Island Guardian
 
monster-eats-pilot's Avatar
 
Ants Champion! Movie Star Match-Up Champion! Duck Hunt 2 Champion!
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mystery Frickin' Island
Fave Character: Smokey
Lost Item: Jesus Stick
Posts: 7,534
Send a message via MSN to monster-eats-pilot
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 18 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #26 Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Forum Double-Act Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Friendliest Forumer LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 17 Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - 3.10 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #10 
Total Awards: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Roc View Post
But she is Ben's daughter - it takes a boy to have a baby but a man to raise and love a child, even if it isn't his own.
Oh shut up

Ok biologically she isnt. The day will come when she doesnt want him anymore
__________________
monster-eats-pilot is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 11:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
Being Kerrazy with Keamy
Island Guardian
 
firebreathingfishies's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Enacting A Sooper Dooper Secret Jack Plan
Fave Character: Paulo
Lost Item: Kate's Map
Posts: 8,249
Send a message via MSN to firebreathingfishies
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 19 Creative Writing Award: Award for excellent creative writing - Issue reason: Award for excellent creative writing contributions Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Forumer You'd Most Like to Meet Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Forum Double-Act Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Sig-Maker Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Avatar Maker Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #18 LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 15 Create A Lost Character 2 - WINNER!: Winner of the Create A Lost Character 2 Contest - Issue reason: Winning Create A Lost Character 2 Contest Create A Lost Character 2 - 3rd Place: Achieving 3rd Place in Create A Lost Character 2 - Issue reason: 3rd Place in Create A Lost Character 2 Forum Excellence Award: Continued and excellent contribution to the forum - Issue reason: All round forum contribution and for graciously assisting others with their Lost graphics Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #13 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 12 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #8 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #6 
Total Awards: 17
Default

Maybe she'd go back to Ben and be all upset but as soon as she's pulled herself back together she'd be all 'i hate you!!!' and angsting everywhere.
__________________



firebreathingfishies is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 11:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
Hello Again :)
Island Architect
 
D-Roc's Avatar
 
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Locke's Heart
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Crucifix
Posts: 17,172
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by monster-eats-pilot View Post
Oh shut up

Ok biologically she isnt. The day will come when she doesnt want him anymore
My silence is not an option my dear

Yeah but there are many parents in this world whose children are not biologically their own - yet many of them love them as if they were there own and more power to them, cos parenthood is thicker than blood..

Well i can't see that day coming anytime soon, he'll always be the only father she has and she'll need him more than ever now.

"I'm Ben's daughter..I'm Ben's daughter"

Loving how Rousseau's name was of no value to her in this situation.

Rousseau? Rousseau who?
__________________

Ben shows Jack how to Pop his Collar
---
Following Ben Linus to the end of the wheel
AND IN TURN, THE END OF TIME & SPACE

D-Roc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2008, 11:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
Locking Jack in a coffin
Island Guardian
 
monster-eats-pilot's Avatar
 
Ants Champion! Movie Star Match-Up Champion! Duck Hunt 2 Champion!
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mystery Frickin' Island
Fave Character: Smokey
Lost Item: Jesus Stick
Posts: 7,534
Send a message via MSN to monster-eats-pilot
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 18 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #26 Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Forum Double-Act Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Friendliest Forumer LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 17 Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - 3.10 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #10 
Total Awards: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Roc View Post
My silence is not an option my dear