Is Karl Ben's Son?

[JB Sawyer]

Originally Posted by D-Roc

Yeah, it's like a puzzle, only the pictures keep changing!

And I don't have the patience for jigsaws to begin with

Originally Posted by Roco

Exactly, he had a good looking girl on his arm and all he did was whine. It's to be expected that a father will scrutinise the guy who's taking his girl away from him - welcome to the world, Karl

Yeah, he was so quick to rat Jules at, he even beat me to it, i was like: Like you, I had little time for the guy. Could this be common ground..our very own Constant?

I'd keep my mouth completely shut if I had Tania Raymonde on my arm. Yeah, obviously he never heard that potential father-in-laws don't like you. It's the way of life Karl get over it

If it was someone who you'd had a good relationship with, as evidenced by her trusting Karl with Ben's X-rays, you'd think you'd at least go over something with her before ratting her out, potentially leading to her being harmed. This has just brought all my dislike for Karl back. Well until we start bleeding from every orifice Roco, consider this a new beginning *offers hand*

Originally Posted by Murg

Sorry, but what precisely did he whine about apart from, say, his having been beaten to a pulp, imprisoned, brainwashed and exiled in fear of his life? I don't really get what's wrong with that.

Best of a bad situation Murg, best of a bad situation And lest we forget his moping issue in Stranger.

[Murgatroyd]

Originally Posted by JB Sawyer

Best of a bad situation Murg, best of a bad situation

You people are tough ....

[-x-madegurl-x-]

but shannon crossed that line too rocco.

[The_abbott]

Originally Posted by D-Roc

It wouldn't be the first time. Shan and Boone got intimate I'm still trying to work out what drove them to do that..i mean she's your sister dude! Shannon's quite hot and i suppose they weren't blood related, but he must have seen some things when he was growing up with her, and it's like there's a line...a line Boone, don't cross it

Here's a thought - did the island punish Boone and Shannon for incest? Not my belief, just came to mind. Damn my active mind

Well if it did it punished Boone first for being an idiot for sleeping with his drunk sister . I think the island then gave Shannon to chance to redeem herself which she did with Sayid but as she was nsver going to become one of the oceanic six the island (or that stupid boy Walt!) killed her.

I really hope for a Walt/Shannon explanation even if its a passing comment that was not really Walt or it was.

But I'm moving away from the point.

Yes Karl is as bad as Boone sleeping with his sister.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by -x-madegurl-x-

but shannon crossed that line too rocco.

Oh no doubt about it. in fact she was more to blame, i'd say. She toyed and teased him and screwed with his poor fragile mind.

He's in a better place now.

Originally Posted by The_abbott

Well if it did it punished Boone first for being an idiot for sleeping with his drunk sister . I think the island then gave Shannon to chance to redeem herself which she did with Sayid but as she was nsver going to become one of the oceanic six the island (or that stupid boy Walt!) killed her.

I really hope for a Walt/Shannon explanation even if its a passing comment that was not really Walt or it was.

But I'm moving away from the point.

Yes Karl is as bad as Boone sleeping with his sister.

Indeed, redemption seems to be an all-encompassing theme in Lost. It seems that each character, no matter what their circumstance, needs to be redeemed. It's actually interesting to consider whether a 'reborn' person (as the Losties literally are after surviving certain death from the 'crash') needs to be redeemed. Aren't they already a tabula rasa..a blank slate? I guess not considering their pasts cannot simply be washed away.

It's also interesting, i think, to consider whether the island decided to kill those who have redeemed themselves, before they have the opportunity to regress. Again, this is another way of the island governing peoples fates..almost as if it either has no faith in them, or that it is saving them from what it knows will be future mistakes? With this in mind, is the island granting them a form of afterlife..is it actually being 'merciful'?

As for the Walt/Shannon thing, i don't think it was random - 'Walt' has shown up in too many peoples visions and is held in too high a regard by Ben, Jacob and the island for his appearances to be a passing comment. That's my hope anyway. I think that in Walt the island has found a conduit..it has an impression (a shell) of this person whom everyone loved and whom everyone felt a close bond with. Previously such Walt-sightings probably was Walt himself astral projecting, however I feel that the island has now used his 'impression' to effect and move the characters in specific directions.

[-x-madegurl-x-]

Originally Posted by D-Roc

Oh no doubt about it. in fact she was more to blame, i'd say. She toyed and teased him and screwed with his poor fragile mind.

He's in a better place now.

i would say the same.