The Tempest

[D-Roc]

So what are everyones thoughts on yet another Dharma Station? I've lost count of the number we're at now.

It appears to be the station which provides the island's eletricity - which in itself is interesting.

We also know what the gas masks were for, but do you really trust Charaday?

[lalaland]

is that what they used for the purge? i thought they let off canisters or was that just ben?

how did charaday (lol) get a map of the island? maybe it was in the journel widmore bought last week

[Murgatroyd]

Disappointed that it didn't appear on the blast door map (unless I'm much mistaken, but I don't recall any discussion of it). And I don't understand why such a significant building wasn't being guarded. And it's a bit sad how new infrastructure on this increasingly populous island is no longer a surprise. Basically I think it could've been better conceived.

[Murgatroyd]

Originally Posted by lalaland

is that what they used for the purge? i thought they let off canisters or was that just ben?

how did charaday (lol) get a map of the island? maybe it was in the journel widmore bought last week

I think the implication is that Ben and co did use the Tempest to gas the Dharma people - Ben eradicated his father separately with the canister, but the Tempest does explain how they managed to get so many people in the open air and in one go. It also goes some way towards explaining the general fear of sickness (though not Rousseau's brand - you wouldn't have to euthanase people who've been subjected to that gas as it seems to kill very quickly indeed).

[TheDharmaShark]

Maybe it didnt appear as it wasnt a research station, I think?

Anyway, I completely trust Dan, I dont trust Charlotte as much though.

[Murgatroyd]

Originally Posted by TheDharmaShark

Maybe it didnt appear as it wasnt a research station, I think?

Anyway, I completely trust Dan, I dont trust Charlotte as much though.

Maybe, but I can't help thinking the writers would do better to explain questions they've already raised rather than inventing new ones. I agree sort of about Dan - that is, I really want to trust him! And I pretty much do - he seems too much out of the loop to be willfully threatening. But Charlotte does seem a lot more cavalier. She's very much inspired by Lara Croft, I think ....

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by lalaland

is that what they used for the purge? i thought they let off canisters or was that just ben?

I think there's elements of the purge that we didn't see. I think the suggestion is that the purge went on for many weeks, if not months and years, and this was another part of wiping out the Dharmafreaks

Although I also have to question 'why' the Dharmalot made the station in the first place - were they trying to purge the 'hostiles'? Did they get what they sowed?

how did charaday (lol) get a map of the island? maybe it was in the journel widmore bought last week

Good shout lala That would make sense. Another possibility is that they (or Widmore) got it from Ben's people who got caught in the real world..?

[The_other_other]

The only thing which comes to mind is that lost borrows loads from shakespear's 'the tempest'. Dunno what it could mean though . Maybe symbolising illusions?

[Malion]

Well... The Tempest is set on a magical island.

Ben = Prospero

[The_other_other]

Originally Posted by Malion

Well... The Tempest is set on a magical island.

Ben = Prospero

Not to mention the boat crashing on the island, with the occupants 'miraculously' surviving. There are loads more as well

[Malion]

Yeah... a mutated Beast was there as well. Kate

[Reed]

Originally Posted by lalaland

how did charaday (lol) get a map of the island? maybe it was in the journel widmore bought last week

I do not think such updated information [i.e. the Stations] would have been in the Journal. Though I cannot recall whether the Map depicted Stations so you may be right

What confuses me is 'when' and 'why' did Ben [and the Others] set a timer for the whole Island to be gassed? How did Faraday and Charlotte know the Island was about to be gassed?

I think I trust both of them and I am growing to like Charlotte. I laughed when she said "what?" right after she whacked Kate over the head. Kate's fault really though.

[Reed]

When there was mention of the station "powering the Island", did anyone else think it meant something OTHER than electricity? We know the Island has A energy, i.e. healing people and what not, but what if the Tempest creates the Island's abilities? Unlikely I suppose and I would rather believe the Island creates it's powers naturally.

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by The_other_other

The only thing which comes to mind is that lost borrows loads from shakespear's 'the tempest'. Dunno what it could mean though . Maybe symbolising illusions?

Indeed, it would seem an appropriate allusion.

Wiki-P also have this on 'Tempest':

Originally Posted by wikipedia

TEMPEST is a codename referring to investigations and studies of compromising emanations (CE). Compromising emanations are defined as unintentional intelligence-bearing signals which, if intercepted and analyzed, disclose the information transmitted, received, handled, or otherwise processed by any information-processing equipment.
Compromising emanations consist of electrical or acoustical energy unintentionally emitted by any of a great number of sources within equipment/systems which process national security information. This energy may relate to the original message, or information being processed, in such a way that it can lead to recovery of the plaintext. Laboratory and field tests have established that such CE can be propagated through space and along nearby conductors. The interception/propagation ranges and analysis of such emanations are affected by a variety of factors, e.g., the functional design of the information processing equipment; system/equipment installation; and, environmental conditions related to physical security and ambient noise. The term "compromising emanations" rather than "radiation" is used because the compromising signals can, and do, exist in several forms such as magnetic- and/or electric-field radiation, line conduction, or acoustic emissions.

Which I find quite interesting considering how Ben was somehow able to relay info to one of his loyalists (who may..or may not have been alive). With that in mind, is Ben 'a' Tempest..or a beacon of somekind.

Eitherway, I guess his specialness has been confirmed in this episode, without actually confirming it - man they're good at holding out.

[Reed]

Originally Posted by D-Roc

Indeed, it would seem an appropriate allusion.

Wiki-P also have this on 'Tempest':


Which I find quite interesting considering how Ben was somehow able to relay info to one of his loyalists (who may..or may not have been alive). With that in mind, is Ben 'a' Tempest..or a beacon of somekind.

Eitherway, I guess his specialness has been confirmed in this episode, without actually confirming it - man they're good at holding out.

That makes me believe that the gas is produced by the Island and harnessed by the Station. When released the gas filters out from the Island which sounds a little silly.

Regarding Ben, I thought that the station may have been on a timer or that the gas being 'activated' was discussed/set-up by Ben and the Others long before he "allowed" himself to be captured by the Survivors. A contingency plan of sorts.

Though how Ben and his people were suppose to survive is beyond me. Perhaps the Others had masks and Ben was going to sacrifice himself?