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4.02 Confirmed Dead Discussion for episode 4.02 - Originally aired 10/02/08 on Sky One

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Old 02-15-2008, 12:18 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Losties vs. Others arguements? Still?

Your both as bad as each other. Its human nature. There is no right and wrong, and "we're all others". Even Jack has pulled the trigger.

What the problem is and what needs to be solved is this distinct lack of communication of true people and ideas they have to each other.
I swear someone on Lost has said that before. Am I correct?

Funnily enough, the Survivors in a sense are the NEW Others as far as The Freighters are concerned. Or atleast that is one way of looking at it.

The Freighters were met with such hostility from the Survivors in 4x02 and it will be their "stubborness" and "bad attitude" which will harm their escape from the Island I feel. This is not really the most coherant arguement but there we go.

I just feel the Survivors are not really as 'good', clean and 'wholesome' as individuals [or group for that matter] to really state they are so very different from the Others in terms of good and bad.
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:59 AM   #32 (permalink)
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You are correct - Locke did, in One of Them. He said it to Sayid, in reference to Danielle's viewpoint.

Edit: Ok, I checked that because I was unsure - it was actually Jack.

JACK: Then how do you know?
SAYID: Because I know. He is one of them.
JACK: I think that Rousseau thought that about you once, Sayid. If I'm not mistaken she strapped you down, she shocked you, all because she thought you were one of them.
LOCKE: He is.
JACK: What?
LOCKE: He is one of them. To Rousseau, we're all Others.
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You are correct - Locke did, in One of Them. He said it to Sayid, in reference to Danielle's viewpoint.

Edit: Ok, I checked that because I was unsure - it was actually Jack.

JACK: Then how do you know?
SAYID: Because I know. He is one of them.
JACK: I think that Rousseau thought that about you once, Sayid. If I'm not mistaken she strapped you down, she shocked you, all because she thought you were one of them.
LOCKE: He is.
JACK: What?
LOCKE: He is one of them. To Rousseau, we're all Others.
I thought so, thanks Him.

It was a pretty good line I feel. I recall Pickett saying "them" in S3 referring to the Survivors which made you realise they see the Survivors as "others". Not really important however.
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I said that line in quotations because Locke says it in season 1. Its called intertextuality, and using an embeded quotation from the text in hand to support my point in an exhilerating way.

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