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Old 02-11-2008, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Upon watching this episode (4.02) i am guessing that the 6 people who get off the island will include Sayid and Juliet. Obviously we knew Jack and Kate, but now Sayid and Jules have arrived at the helicopter i am guessing that they are included. My guess about what happens is related to what Frank said about the chopper having a lack of fuel. He says something about doing more than one run back to the ship. Well, i'm guessing that this doesn't happen. What if the helicopter can only fit 6 people? Daniel, Miles and Charlotte could be off tracking down Ben, while the helicopter goes off on its 'first run'...but consequently, one run is all it can manage. So Jack, Kate, Sayid and Juliet get 'rescued'...my question is, how does Hurley become part of this group? And who is the sixth member? POSSIBLY Frank, pretending that he was the real pilot? Or if Michael IS on the boat perhaps its him? Or another of the losties?
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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my question is, how does Hurley become part of this group?
I think it's only a matter of time until there is a big collision between the groups but my other guess as to how Hurley could become part of Jack's clan is that he is told something about Jacob by Ben - maybe led to believe Locke will hurt him because he wants to be the only special one on the island and that leads to Hurley running off?
Ben surely won't be happy that there are now two 'special' people on the island besides him so it would be in his best intrests that, if anyone gets off the island, Hurley and/or Locke does.
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Precisely what I was saying a few days ago - it will probably be on "unexpected" terms that the Oceanic Six leave the Island, i.e. they do not necessarily leave their friends for dead.

And obviously the two groups will not stay seperated for long, especially now that The Freighters have arrived - there has to be a collision soon.

Michael could very well apart of the O6 if he returns, which I have always believed he would because it is a plotline that surely HAS to be utilised. Otherwise it would be a great shame. Mention of Walt is promising in regard to this. Well one can hope. Perhaps he will be used in a twist - in a nearby FF it turns out Michael IS one of the O6. That would be brilliant.

I doubt any of the Freighters will be one of the O6 because they are the rescue team.
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I have another theory. The helicopter's first run gets back to the freighter, which has been hijacked by Ben's man. Somehow the helicopter manages to go back to the island on its second run, but then Jack and the rest of the O6 are left on the boat. I'm not sure how and this doesn't include detail, but the boat leaves for 'home' with just the O6 on. Maybe Ben's man wants to boat to go home just so it doesn't take Ben with it. So he/they tell the O6 what they have to say to keep quiet and everything, and the boat takes them home, leaving the helicopter stranded on the island with not enough fuel.
If anyone can add to this that would be great.
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i don't think Juliet will get off the island because she wasn't on the plane.

hurley, jack, kate, sayid and either sun and jin or claire and aaron are my guesses.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i don't think Juliet will get off the island because she wasn't on the plane.
Yes but that doesn't mean anything. She can say she was on the plane. It appears that they've all been sworn to secrecy anyway, so none of them can say a thing about the island.
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well i dont think they would have named it the oceanic 6 if juliets in it, which kinda points to her probably not being in it
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Yes but that doesn't mean anything. She can say she was on the plane. It appears that they've all been sworn to secrecy anyway, so none of them can say a thing about the island.
No, I' don't think they're gonna want to take Juliet home.
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People back home probably have a manifest somewhere, like Frank did, so probably only people who were on the plane will be included in the oceanic 6...
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i know think the oceanic 6 are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Ben and Desmond. I don't think claire will get on for some reason. probably just because we expect her too and because Kate's a floozy and she always wants to be surrounded by men
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have another theory. The helicopter's first run gets back to the freighter, which has been hijacked by Ben's man. Somehow the helicopter manages to go back to the island on its second run, but then Jack and the rest of the O6 are left on the boat. I'm not sure how and this doesn't include detail, but the boat leaves for 'home' with just the O6 on. Maybe Ben's man wants to boat to go home just so it doesn't take Ben with it. So he/they tell the O6 what they have to say to keep quiet and everything, and the boat takes them home, leaving the helicopter stranded on the island with not enough fuel.
If anyone can add to this that would be great.
Why would Ben's "man" want to rescue the Survivors? That theory confused me I am afraid to say. You are saying Ben's insider is not voluntarily working for Ben and that he needs a "way out"? Why do they need to stay quiet? Or are you saying this man is doing Ben a favour and keeping the Island a secret?
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Why would Ben's "man" want to rescue the Survivors? That theory confused me I am afraid to say. You are saying Ben's insider is not voluntarily working for Ben and that he needs a "way out"? Why do they need to stay quiet? Or are you saying this man is doing Ben a favour and keeping the Island a secret?
Lol, i think i confused myself there!! I did say the theory has holes in it...what i was trying to say was just that maybe the losties get rescued by boat and not by helicopter. I dont know what happens on the boat...maybe the losties take control of the situation (i.e. they hijack it)? If Ben only has one man on the boat and there's 6 losties, maybe they can make it work in their favour? Hmm. This is why i said people can contribute if they have any ideas. The theory wasn't based around the bit you pointed out really, i was just pondering ideas about the boat and the helicopter. Sorry for confusing you!
And what i meant about staying quiet was that there has to be a reason why Jack and co. have lied about what happened on the island. They are keeping something secret, but we dont know what.
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