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| 4.01 The Beginning of the End Discussion forum for episode 4.01 - Originally aired 03/02/08 on Sky One |
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Argh me hearties..the Black Rock
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true true
all jack seems to care about now is himself i mean wen he was peomised a place on the sub he didnt care about the rest of the camp it was like hes got a tickat outa there so why care about the rest like u sed hes selfish x
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Distinctly Wonderful
Island Warrior
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Location: Locke's Right Hand Side
Fave Character: Locke
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Jack can't even give people medical treatment without thinking about himself in some way a lot of the time... Yes, he only agreed to save Ben's life after he'd seen Kate get with Sawyer on the tv screen, and the first deal he made with Ben was to only get himself home; no immediate thought of using the opportunity to save anyone else, just himself first and foremost in his mind. Just one of many reasons why I can't stand Jack!
Of course Locke is selfish too, but in my view he's got far more understandable motives to be so than anyone else (especially Jack) has to be. But that's just a biased opinion of course!
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Argh me hearties..the Black Rock
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lockes selfish reasons are backed up tho
i mean he needs to stay on the island to walk that his selfish reasons for doing wat he has done jack has nothing to go back to and is jus being selfish cus thats how he is lately x
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Smokey's number 1 fan
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I think Locke thinks he can relate to Ben as they both have a connection with the island and they do see eye to eye on afew things.
Locke badly wants answers.
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Why So Serious?
Island Architect
Tournaments Won: 1 Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ben's Jacket
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Crucifix
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Yeah, I think Locke does see a bit of himself in Ben..although at the same time he also see's authority and knowledge..and Locke doesn't like authority unless he's part of it.
I think both men are very similar, but also very different - it's almost as if Ben is who Locke would be if Locke had been on the island for the same amount of time. Which is I think partly what Ben was getting at during John's 3.13 'pharacy' tirade.
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