Lost Community Forums - Official Spoiler-free Lost Fansite

Go Back   Lost Community Forums - Official Spoiler-free Lost Fansite > Lost Discussion Forums > Season 4 UK Episode Discussion > 4.01 The Beginning of the End

Notices

4.01 The Beginning of the End Discussion forum for episode 4.01 - Originally aired 03/02/08 on Sky One

View Poll Results: Too Soon?
Yes! 4 36.36%
No! 7 63.64%
He should never have shown up and never should again! 0 0%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-09-2008, 03:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
LuLu's Redemption
Survivor
 
Audio Pineapple's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,189
Send a message via MSN to Audio Pineapple
Default Charlie - Back Too Soon?

After waiting over a season to have Boone show up again in Locke's wacky paste vision we get Charlie... one episode after he died. And out of all the rest who have died we had the briefest snippet of Ana-Lucia for Mr. Eko right after she died and a couple of flashback appearences for people which don't really fall into the same category.

Did we need Charlie this early? Obviously this only counts if he is actually dead and a vision of Hurley's head / the island / whatnot, but there wasn't any form of gap, no time to miss him if you liked him or celebrate if you didn't.

When Boone came back it seemed special to me. In the same way that it does whenever Ethan pops up and it's not because they're two of my favourite characters. If it had been, say, eight episodes later I'd have gone "*legasp* Charlie!"

Bringing him back so early, if dead, bored me. But what do you guys think? Should the writers have waited or were you pleased to see him back already?
Audio Pineapple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links


Old 02-09-2008, 03:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
Argh me hearties..the Black Rock
Survivor
 
master-casanova's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Heart of the Island
Fave Character: Ben
Lost Item: Ben's Stick
Posts: 1,129
Default

i was pleased to see him back yeh but i jus wish they wuda left it a little longer until they made him re-appear

i think mid season 4 at the very least
like boone was well over a season

but it was still good seeing him again

(Y)
__________________
Team Ben
+Master-Casanova +
master-casanova is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 04:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
Island MSN
Survivor
 
Blloydy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,448
Send a message via MSN to Blloydy
Default

I agree with Casanova, it could have waited longer, but it was still nice to see him back.

I think he needed to come back early though, to tell the story.
__________________

I miss you Kaidaa. xxx

JJB

Lostie - with an IE
Blloydy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 04:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
Argh me hearties..the Black Rock
Survivor
 
master-casanova's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Heart of the Island
Fave Character: Ben
Lost Item: Ben's Stick
Posts: 1,129
Default

yeh him just being at the end of the episode was a bit....annoying
like it wuda been better if he was popping up every now and then in the flashforwards
but it was still good non the less

(Y)
__________________
Team Ben
+Master-Casanova +
master-casanova is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 04:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
Just Got Sylar'd
Island Guardian
 
firebreathingfishies's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Over there *points*
Fave Character: Smokey
Lost Item: Gas Mask
Posts: 7,996
Send a message via MSN to firebreathingfishies
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 19 Creative Writing Award: Award for excellent creative writing - Issue reason: Award for excellent creative writing contributions Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Forumer You'd Most Like to Meet Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Forum Double-Act Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Sig-Maker Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Avatar Maker Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #18 LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 15 Create A Lost Character 2 - WINNER!: Winner of the Create A Lost Character 2 Contest - Issue reason: Winning Create A Lost Character 2 Contest Create A Lost Character 2 - 3rd Place: Achieving 3rd Place in Create A Lost Character 2 - Issue reason: 3rd Place in Create A Lost Character 2 Forum Excellence Award: Continued and excellent contribution to the forum - Issue reason: All round forum contribution and for graciously assisting others with their Lost graphics Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #13 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 12 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #8 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #6 
Total Awards: 17
Default

Charlie's one of my favourite characters so it would never have been too early but then again it would have been more shocking if it had been after a coupe of episodes. But I still voted No lol
__________________
firebreathingfishies is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 05:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
Redshirt
Survivor
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Nairn, Scotland
Fave Character: Vincent
Lost Item: Fish Biscuits
Posts: 69
Default

Charlie can come back as often as he likes, as far as I'm concerned. I was disappointed he wasn't in any mobisodes.

But it does make it more shocking, somehow, when we're still slightly emotional about his death (oh, all right, *very* emotional), and we have all the business of all the Losties finding out he's dead, and it's all terribly sad, but we're just about getting to grips with him being gone. And then suddenly - bam, there he is, looking totally cool and different, somehow. There would have been less of an impact, I think, if there had been several episodes go by, and then he turns up. I thought it worked well.

Although I don't know what on earth it means. Are we in the zombie season already???
PaulineMRoss is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 05:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
Argh me hearties..the Black Rock
Survivor
 
master-casanova's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Heart of the Island
Fave Character: Ben
Lost Item: Ben's Stick
Posts: 1,129
Default

yeh i think him coming back was good
i jus wish they wuda kept it a little longer
its like their trying to get him out of it asap, and i hope thats not why they did it cus he was so ace

and depends how many more dead losties we see back
x
__________________
Team Ben
+Master-Casanova +
master-casanova is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 05:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
Light em Uup!
Survivor
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Fave Character: Desmond
Posts: 2,649
Default

It was an interesting plot point and it was nice to see him again, but agree it would've had a bit more impact had we been forced to wait a while. I think it slightly diluted the impact of his death, the fact that the viewers himself had yet to be deprived of him at all.
Murgatroyd is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 06:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
Enkidu
Survivor
 
Easily confused's Avatar
 
Plupon Champion! Tetris Champion!
Tournaments Won: 1

Join Date: Jan 2007
Fave Character: Locke
Lost Item: Glass Eye
Posts: 2,196
Default

I don't think he came back too soon I think he died too soon

I am also pleased that if he is still going to be in it that he has come back early as that means that there is plenty more chances to see him to come
__________________
Easily confused is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 06:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
Flashing Desmond
Island Believer
 
JB Sawyer's Avatar
 
13 Days in Hell Champion! Simon Champion!
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Palace Of Wisdom
Fave Character: Juliet
Lost Item: Whiskey
Posts: 7,023
Send a message via MSN to JB Sawyer
Awards Showcase
Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - Season 3 Episode 17 Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Creating Winning Signature for Week 24 Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Most Stubborn Forumer Forum Award 2007/08 Winner: Award winner for the LC Forum Awards 2007/08 - Issue reason: LC Forum Award Winner: Best Love/Hate Relationship Sig of The Week: Signature of The Week Award - Issue reason: Signature of the week #22 Caption Competition Winner: Awards for Winners of the Caption Competitions - Issue reason: Caption Competition Winner - 3.01 
Total Awards: 6
Default

No I don't think so. Remember we did have 9 months without him to mourn/celebrate. I actually think it was quite clever more than anything. I mean we as viewers didn't expect to see him again for a long while yet he pops up in the first episode. It was certainly unexpected imo, as, let's face it, did anyone think that we would see him so soon? We had all resigned ourself to life without Charlie yet here he is. For me that was more effective than it would have been seeing him a lot later on.
__________________
The Enigma
Heroes Is Better Than Lost

...heroes never die
JB Sawyer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 06:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
3 Minutes
Island Survivor
 
Matt Gogi's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Near Norwich
Fave Character: Smokey
Lost Item: Sonic Fence
Posts: 5,174
Send a message via MSN to Matt Gogi
Awards Showcase
LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues 
Total Awards: 1
Default

I think you have made a good point, I don't think it was too soon. It was nice how he appeared to Hurley, and like JB said, we did have 9 months to come to terms with it... and I think as he came back so soon, it's as though he never really left...
__________________
Power, Beauty, Soul
Matt Gogi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 06:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
Argh me hearties..the Black Rock
Survivor
 
master-casanova's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Heart of the Island
Fave Character: Ben
Lost Item: Ben's Stick
Posts: 1,129
Default

good points
i just hope they use him in the future
otherwise it wud reli suck


x
__________________
Team Ben
+Master-Casanova +
master-casanova is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 06:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
Gilgamesh
Survivor
 
lost-lover's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Across the sea to a land of make-believe...
Fave Character: Sawyer
Lost Item: Jack's Stones
Posts: 2,077
Send a message via MSN to lost-lover
Awards Showcase
Creative Writing Award: Award for excellent creative writing - Issue reason: Award for excellent creative writing contributions 
Total Awards: 1
Default

I've always been a Charlie fan so I don't mind, I agree that the long wait between seasons probably helped though.
lost-lover is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 06:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
3 Minutes
Island Survivor
 
Matt Gogi's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Near Norwich
Fave Character: Smokey
Lost Item: Sonic Fence
Posts: 5,174
Send a message via MSN to Matt Gogi
Awards Showcase
LC Medal of Honour: Award for the call of duty to the Lost Community - Issue reason: For helpfulness during recent technical issues 
Total Awards: 1
Default

I think that coz he was a main character who was there for 3 whole seasons, they can't just write him out completely... hopefully we'll see him a few times in the future.
__________________
Power, Beauty, Soul
Matt Gogi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 06:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
Argh me hearties..the Black Rock
Survivor
 
master-casanova's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Heart of the Island
Fave Character: Ben
Lost Item: Ben's Stick
Posts: 1,129
Default

i hope so
maybe in the very last series we will see quite a few old faces
that wud be quite cool

(Y)
x
__________________
Team Ben
+Master-Casanova +
master-casanova is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On<