They need you...

[misspiggy]

Okay, when I first saw Charlie talking to Hurley at the hospital and then it flashed back to Hurley hgging Claire that maybe Claire and Arron made it off the island and Charlie wants Hurley to look after them.

It could also be that the other islanders need Hurley, but why? what could he possibly do to help them. Is it just a matter of him telling the world that there are still people left on the island? I can't understand what could have happened that would mean that Jack, Kate and Hurley (+ 3 others) would deny all knowledge of the other survivors. Even going so far as to deny ever having met them (as Hurley did in the police station.)

This was a brilliant first episode, but threw up a lot of questions.

[Reed]

Originally Posted by misspiggy

Okay, when I first saw Charlie talking to Hurley at the hospital and then it flashed back to Hurley hgging Claire that maybe Claire and Arron made it off the island and Charlie wants Hurley to look after them.

It could also be that the other islanders need Hurley, but why? what could he possibly do to help them. Is it just a matter of him telling the world that there are still people left on the island? I can't understand what could have happened that would mean that Jack, Kate and Hurley (+ 3 others) would deny all knowledge of the other survivors. Even going so far as to deny ever having met them (as Hurley did in the police station.)

This was a brilliant first episode, but threw up a lot of questions.

I do not think Hurley would want to anger the policeman because hearing that Ana died would infuriate him because he would blame Hurley. It could lead to questions which cause Hurley to reveal where they were and what happened.

Nice idea, but I would have thought Charlie was referring to the Island personally and not OFF-Island Aaron and Claire.

I think perhaps either going to the FBI or a "certain" private organisation they know of [Hanso?, Dharma?] could help "save" the remaining Islanders - whomever they may be.

Perhaps admitting what happened may result in their return to the Island and they do not want to return. It could result in their Hero status being ruined and thus becoming Villains if people know they turned their backs on their friends. But I refuse to believe it is as straight forward as that. Hurley and Jack would NEVER do that unless of course they are all no longer friends.

This whole thing really confuses me to be honest.

[Lauren [is Lost]]

What i took from the part with Charlie telling Hurley "they need you" was that Claire & Aaron are still on the island, and Charlie wants him to go back for them. My interpretation of that was that Charlie is Hurley's subconscious, yes because they were buddies, but also because Claire is one of the people they left behind and Hurley is feeling guilty about it, because he knew Charlie wouldn't approve.

Does that make sense?

[The Wizard]

Originally Posted by Reed

I do not think Hurley would want to anger the policeman because hearing that Ana died would infuriate him because he would blame Hurley. It could lead to questions which cause Hurley to reveal where they were and what happened.

I thought the reason for this was that there had been a cover up and the oceanic 6 had been forced to say that everyone else on the plane had died in the crash or something, because the policeman said 'Maybe you knew her, maybe you met her before the plane took off' indicating he didn't think Hurley could have met her on the island.

[misspiggy]

Originally Posted by The Wizard

I thought the reason for this was that there had been a cover up and the oceanic 6 had been forced to say that everyone else on the plane had died in the crash or something, because the policeman said 'Maybe you knew her, maybe you met her before the plane took off' indicating he didn't think Hurley could have met her on the island.

I thought he asked this question in a really interesting way. He was definitely trying to lead Hurley into something. Asking the same question in a slightly different way each time, telling Hurley what she looked like. Either he really did now Ana Lucia, or perhaps he is another agent working on behalf of whoever it is. Trying to get Hurley to trip up and reveal that he knew some other survivors.

[D-Roc]

I think that there's a cover-up because the world doesn't know about the island yet. Notice, how no-one in either flash forward (apart from our losties) has even referenced the island. The man in the 3.23 pharmacy called Jack a "Hero twice over", but he didn't mention the island - I find that strange, until I consider that the 'real world', as it were, is still unaware that they landed on 'that' island.

I think they were given another 'story' to run - i'm not sure what it could be, because how do you survive a plane disappearance and come back 'x' months later - either you end up in the water, or on land. But i'm sure there's somekind of cover story they've been made to abide by - one which makes Jack out to be somekind of hero, when his decision was evidently not for 'the greater good'.

I should add that Mathew Abbadon probably knows about the island - but that's most likely because he works for Hanso, or Dharma or one of those shadowy agencies who are (still) trying to find the island..which would perhaps make Minkowski and Naomi's outfit a 'rival' group. It would seem Dharma/Widmore are not the only ones in search of the new holy grail..(spec)

I think that Lauren has a point about Charlie representing Hugo's subconscious, although I would also suggest that that was actually Charlie who visited him - the dead are able to tap into the subconscious of the living..especially with people like Hurley, who appear to be "special".

His 'specialness' could also be the reason why 'he' is specifically needed..perhaps they are all special and the only way for them (and the island) to be saved is if they "bring the family back together".

[The Wizard]

Originally Posted by misspiggy

Either he really did now Ana Lucia

He did, he worked with her in one of her flashbacks... i think

Originally Posted by D-Roc

The man in the 3.23 pharmacy called Jack a "Hero twice over", but he didn't mention the island - I find that strange, until I consider that the 'real world', as it were, is still unaware that they landed on 'that' island.

Couldn't the "twice over" thing be referring to him making Sarah walk again and pulling the woman and her son from the burning wreckage?

[Lauren [is Lost]]

Originally Posted by The Wizard

Couldn't the "twice over" thing be referring to him making Sarah walk again and pulling the woman and her son from the burning wreckage?

OF COURSE!! I can't believe i never thought of that! As far as i can remember, the whole time since watching Jack's FF i've assumed that the 'twice over' thing meant once rescuing the woman & her son and once on the island...but obviously there's Sarah aswell!! Gosh. I suddenly feel rather stupid!

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted by The Wizard

He did, he worked with her in one of her flashbacks... i think



Couldn't the "twice over" thing be referring to him making Sarah walk again and pulling the woman and her son from the burning wreckage?

Good suggestion, didn't think of that.
Although I do still get the impression that he was referring to something more..whats the word..dramatic?

Whilst the Sarah thing was indeed amazing, I think that a medical miracle like that wouldn't be attributed to one person - although we know (or can assume) that Jack played a major part in her walking again, i'm not sure the medical world would be able to 'explain' it to a mass audience and consequently attribute it to Jack.

Again, it is a great shout and you could still be right.

Incidentally, I wonder whether the "They Need You" can tie into my recent Hurley is a Beacon theory, which alludes to the idea that each of the losties have an ability - one which may not be apparent in the real world, but on the island such abilities are heightened (like Walt's astral projecting and Jack's ability to heal). Perhaps if the losties had specific abilities which the presumed others on the island needed, then that would explain why 'Hurley' is specifically needed..and not, say, general search and rescue..

Or, perhaps Hurley's guilt and Charlie's 'ghost' are pointing to the fact that Hurley needs to tell the secret, and set the wheels in motion to go back to the island/save it, or save the people. However, this would require the island being even less of a secret to the rest of the world than it already is..and surely this is not what the 'island' would want?

Unless this is what Jacob's "Help me" refered to?

..or maybe we're looking at this slightly from the wrong angle - perhaps they don't need to go back to the island.....but rather, back in time..