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Originally Posted by Murg
Well, partly I didn't see much genuine emotion from Ben. I saw him listen carefully to what Keamy was saying, look down contemplatively and with a modicum of difficulty on hearing of the bomb, then suddenly fly out at Keamy with a bit of a melodramatic face on. 'So?' sounded genuine; his calmly reasoned waffle about 'bad command decisions' to Locke a few minutes later sounded rehearsed. Then again, my brother had just speculated as to whether Ben would be the one to blow up the freighter and sink all remnants and all evidence, so maybe my thinking about that possibility coloured my reading of what Ben subsequently did. But basically, knowingly and consciously (watch for his reaction to Keamy's information: he most definitely digested what was being said) sacrificing dozens of lives for the sake of your own desire for vengence was never going to win him any points with me, especially alongside the reminder that every sick thing he did in relation to the fertility experiments was a load of trivial and unnecessary garbage.
And at least Sawyer looked distraught after he killed Duckett.  |
Well that's probably the answer then. You may have seen Ben's replies actually said with some rationality and thought behind them. And whilst I'd usually tend to agree with you on anything concerning Mr. Linus, I personally saw everything Ben said as completely as it was said. I saw no alterior motive behind Ben's actions, merely emotion. I believe that Ben was governed by emotion rather than having any sort of rationality. I know that's rather strange and foolish to say about Ben but for once I believed his words, and I believed them to be said through emotion and with little thought behind them. That's not to say that you're wrong of course, Ben could very well have been in full control of himself, but for once I'll believe that Ben did what he did through pure emotion.
Murg I shall defend Sawyer on most views and the Duckett case is one of them. No argument from me on that front
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Originally Posted by EC
no joke i think when we saw Sun and Hurley at Jin's grave she gave the impression that she still believe Jin is alive (just like Rose had faith that Bernard was still alive back in the day) and thats why she wants Widemore's help so she can back to the island and find him
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Oh, I wasn't referring to the idea that Jin's not dead. That is completely plausible, even if I personally believe he is sleepng with the fishies. What I was referring to was the concept of him being catapulted into rang of the Island when it moved. That's just being silly
On the Widmore front, I believe that Locke saw Sun off-island and told her what caused the explosion - Ben killing Keamy. This would cause Sun to want to get revenge on Ben and what better way than to join his enemy. But the idea of Jin being alive is fully believable
