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Originally Posted by Losty

Okay- i'm up for a proper review now.

I'm agreeing with Rocco that this was one of THE best episodes ever- it's coming up there with The Moth and The Constant. The excitement, the reveals, the intriguing flash's...it's what Lost's about.

Sweet review! yeah, this eppy was fandabulous!

Firstly, I was saddened to discover that Dani is, in fact, dead. When Alex told Ben "they killed Karl, and my mother," my heart sank quite a lot.

Yeah, I guess she was confirmed dead by Alex, since Keamy's people would have checked on her before departing from the scene - although i'm surprised that they never showed confirmation of her death in a later episode - perhaps with Ben/Locke/Hugo coming across her body enroute to the hut or the Temple.

I still think we'll get a Rousseau flashie at somepoint

And code 14-J? I think it's most likely that Alex sent it, at the same time as opening the sonic fence. Would they have programmed it (I mean they as in the Dharma Initiative, as I doubt Ben could have built it later) for safety regarding Smokey? Or for a situation just like this?

Yup, I assumed Alex sent it - although i was cursing her before that when she entered the code to let Team-Keamy inside the boundary. I should've known better to doubt you dear Alex. That's our girl..giving Benji the headsup. How tragic..the last words she heard Ben say were...

Alex's death scene made me sob...(I can't believe i'm about to type this)...more than Charlie's death scene did. It was so upsetting, and the fact that this was right in front of the burning remains of Claires house- very powerful, along with the first time Alex called Ben "daddy." I cried in front of this screen, my brother running to me to find out what was going on.

I feel you - I too was just stunned and sickened. Although i am glad that ABC allowed such a grusome act to be shown, because such a scene needed it to gain the full impact. Still..she was SIXTEEN man..SIXTEEN. fraking Keamy!!I hope Smokes munched his azz.

The sub-plot is making me wonder- what the heck is wrong with Jack? I don't know why his stomach started acting up as soon as Daniel lowered the bomb that they weren't there to rescue them. I think Jack lied that his 'bug', is just that.

Good shout - i think this is indeed the 'shape of things to come' for Jack - he's popping pills and looking sick, much like in smoe of his future flashes. I think this may forshadow what is to come for him.

I also love how the producers liked the title "The Beginning of the End" so much, that they basically recycled it with "The Shape of Things to Come", which basically means the same thing..LOL TPTB..LOL

Also- was that really the doctor? I couldn't really get a great glimpse of his face- and he was all pale and stuff.

Yup, it was him alright. I'm thinking that the time difference (or the perspective of..) will come into play. Perhaps he is still currently alive on the boat, but will die..I think the time difference works in reverse when somethin comes to the island, so basically the losties could be seeing a future Doctor Ray.

Also, i found it interesting how the Island wont allow the boat to come near to it, yet it allows a dead body to wash ashore - more evidence of the island needing souls on which to feed?