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Originally Posted by Kiowa Warrior
Oh yeah I can see why Locke was brought up because Jin wanted to know why they stayed with Jack, but I just still don't find Bernard's justification satisfying: that him and Rose aren't going with Locke simply because he's a murderer, and that based on his karma speech bad things are sure to happen to him. If he's so against that, it just baffles me that he's willing to be led by Jack who would happily have made himself a murderer if there had been bullets in Locke's gun.
Yes perhaps Bernard doesn't know about the details of every murderer on the island, but apart from Jack's determined attempts to become one he also saw Sayid murder an Other with his legs and was part of the team that stayed behind on the beach to blow a group of people up...Bernard himself is a murderer and yet he can still look down on Locke for his actions even though he's got a higher kill count to his name!
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As I said in some other post somewhere, I don't think it's hard to see why Locke's shooting a total stranger because the island told him to is a worse crime in Bernard's eyes than Sayid's killing a man who'd set out to murder him and his companions and who was holding him at gunpoint ... or even his own involvement in killing people he knew were coming to kidnap women (including his wife) and murder anyone who intervened. If you can sympathise with Locke and Ben's killing people they consider personal threats, I can't see how it's too great a leap of logic to at least comprehend (if not necessarily agree with or applaud) Bernard's position.
Anyway, Bernard was explaining Rose's feelings, not his own. He was willing to go with Locke if Rose wanted to.
And yeah, I don't think it makes masses of sense to side with Jack if you're working on an anti-murderer basis - I think it makes more sense to go off on your own. But if you've ruled out that option and you've narrowed yourself down to just those two, Jack's undeniably 'less' of a murderer than Locke. Still, I agree that neither's far and away the better option.