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Old 03-02-2008, 10:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by JB Sawyer View Post
For me he was concious of the fact he couldn't get back because people who suffer from the bubble curse are fully aware that they're switching between times consciously, and therefore would recognise if he couldn't get back.
I would argue that Desmond wasn't exactly 'aware' that he was about to switch from one time to another - it sort of just 'happened'.

Although I do I know what you mean if you're referring to to moment after they've switched - although my point is that we don't know what this is like, we don't know what such an experience is like. If he 'can't get back', what exactly is happening to him - does his door to the present gradually fade out? Does a metaphorical window simply shut? It would be interesting to see what he saw as he was struggling to get back.

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I also don't think it's a case of either of the two entities being able to live separately.

I think once the conscious mind fails as a result of the time switches, which it invariably does by the end i.e. Eloise and Minkowski, then all entities die with it. It is the brain that dies not the body, and so when the brain dies eventually so does any body. Therefore I don't think his body in the past can still survive as a separate entity no.
I would argue that if he was 'unable to get back', it could well indicate that he is now 'stuck' in the past and not necessarily dead in the past - afterall, the language that he used indicated that he was still existing in one time..just unable to get over to his present-time.

I can agree with you on the idea that the two 'living' entities cannot exist seperately, however if we're speaking time-loops (which also hasn't been ruled out) if future-present) Minkowski dies, who's to say the past Minkowski also dies? Past Minkowski could be living in a newly perceived time-line. Again, I believe that we're talking about perception of time, which opens many possibilities.

After all, which entity (past or future) is the source, if you will. We would argue that present Des/Minkowski is the source - but that's because we've watched the show with the narrow perception that the show is unfolding with the time-line that we're watching.

So I kinda agree with you, although I'm catious as the time-loop idea is still out-there.
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