lol OK. Firstly, to clarify, I aint particularily a Kate fan (an Eva fan, yes.. but Kate as a character has very few redeeming features. I only stand up for her because I feel she - as in Eva - comes under unfair 'bashing'.)
Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Roc
my reasons for placing her as villain are related to her allowing Jack to lie on the Bible for her, not accepting responsibility for her crimes, using Sawyer, Using Miles, Endangering her fellows by releasing Miles for a completly selfish reason, blaming her mom for dobbing her in (when it was her who executed her partner)..need I go on?
|
Excuse moi?
She didn't allow Jack to lie for her at
all. If you remember that scene, her lawyer says something along the lines of "I'm sorry I had to do this" and then Jack comes in. He then starts to lie and - again, going off memory - Kate
stops Jack from continuing! She
did accept responsibility for her crimes - or least she was willing to - she did not accept the blackmailing attempt by her mother (I understand the counter argument that Kate should allow her mother to see Aaron anyways, as a dieing wish - but under the circimstances: "Let me see my grand son or I'll send you down!" I think Kate had every right to deny access, if only on principle!) Your other examples are all 'on-island' Kate. And as I said, I saw a distinct difference between the on-island and flashforward Kate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Roc
So, to clarify - you would agree with ILWL's claim for Kate being heroic on the mere 'assumption' that she is doing good in relation to Claire/Aaron...whilst also overlooking al of the BAD that she did in this episode - including the FF..?
|
Yes, to be honest I never even considered that she may have stolen Aaron until I came onto this board. I think we're supposed to view FF Kate as someone who has
changed, the "I'm not going anywhere, I have a son" in my opinion was very 'un-Kate'; always running and gunning. I don't think current on island Kate would firstly steal a child (she doesn't seem mothery?) and finally decide to raise him, given the choice. In my opinion, the assumption is that she did something horrid to Claire or kidnapped Aaron. But each to their won. I'm not ruling it out, of course.. I would just find it 'unfitting' in the general tone of the episode
I think there's a distinct difference between both FF and on-island Kate to warrent both claims. But, like you say later, that's all due to opinion..
Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Roc
..and I'm the one who's biased?  At least I didn't label Locke a 'hero', kinda thing
If i'm going to be called biased I would like for the hecklers to check themselves first..I mean, Eggtown Kate..Hero of the week? Whaaaaaa??  Honestly EPU, ILWL deserved to rot in his own hypocrisy for this one
But as they say, it's a game of opinions..I just can't believe i'm being called biased when Kate fans are suggesting Kate was a Hero last week.  |
Well, that's lovely lol But I'm not arguing that point. Merely the point that there was enough of a difference between FF and on-island Kate to warrent potentially two perspectives. And I never said you were being biased, nor am I a Kate fan so I'll presume that was aimed at ILWL
(Abbs, she's done some unforgivable things in her past. But I don't see how any of them would point toward Kate wanting to steal children?? lol)