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Originally Posted by Matt Gogi
I'm confused as to why people from both groups get off though, they must meet up, or maybe they just get picked up by different people from different places... but WHY was it a mistake going with Locke?? New thread, maybe...
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Originally Posted by esn
Id like to know why Hurley thinks that he was worng to go with Locke, and yet thinks they should go back?
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Yeah that's one of the burning questions. Now that I think about it, I find it extremely clever because by showing us the divide in the losties and also showing the FF and how Hugo believes it was a "mistake" to go with Locke, it really does bring relevance to the 'beginning of the end' episode title. We've seen the losties make choices..choices which ultimately end up being wrong or right..however, to further make this sensational story-telling, Jack also ends up being wrong! So first we have Hugo confessing that Locke was wrong (or rather his decision to side with Locke - incidentally who is Hugo blaming here, himself..or Locke?)..and we also know that Jack believes that he's made a mistake (from his FF in 3.23).
It all points to a chain of events..or rather, a chain or mistakes? At various intervals, various people seem to have made the short-term correct decisions, but the long-term wrong decisions.
Within this, we also have to consider the island as a character more than ever, i believe. Hugo's suggestion (to Jack) that the island wants them to go back really does bring us back to the island story and a decision which was made on the island that ultimately leads to what we've seen glimpses of..to what is a beautifully apt "beginning of the end" - literally.
Powerful stuff!!
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Originally Posted by keeno_82uk
I would have gone with Locke.
Even though the island is frought with dangers unbeknownst to man, it is still paradise and is away from the harsh realities of civilisation (money, war, famine etc).
It is also a safe bet. Who knows who the rescuers are after being told that they are not who we thought they were.
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Funnily enough I'd quite like to live on the island..I like adventure and although i'm down with technology, I also have a yearning to escape into the wilderness and become one with mother earth.
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Originally Posted by Murgatroyd
Purely because of Charlie's message, I would've gone with Locke. Or rather, I would've gone where Locke's going - the fact that Locke's of the same mind as me is coincidental, and his presence has no role in my decision. It's all because of Charlie - he's the only one who's given a concrete reason to mistrust the freighter people, though I suppose the extent of Ben's panic about the freighter heightens that mistrust.
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I agree that Charlie's message is a real clincher, although surely Locke's presence and inclination counts for something?
I mean, say Hugo went off on his own to the caves and asked people to join him..and Locke did the same with the barracks - I wonder who people would go with. I'd go with Locke - Charlie's message would still be known, but i'd still feel better off going with Jonathan. It would be interesting to see how the group would divide if their were three leaders - Jack, Locke and Hugo.
I agree re: Ben's warning.